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Old 06-08-2022, 12:41 AM
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- They want the Legacy loot
- They're scared blue will be deprecated and to prevent this want the pop back on blue
- They're scared the blue raiding scene is dying and want to maintain their sway
- They want to save their character progression, so merging players who dont want to be on blue ruleset is fine by them, even though blue is a minority. Your time doesnt matter so long as their experience is preserved.

You want to know why I'm so condescending towards these people? It's because I just cant stand deceitful worms like them.


Read the whole thread, and you'll see them deny the accusations about their ulterior motives at first, and then start outright admitting them.

Why would anyone want to go back to blue when the population is filled with degenerates like this?
- They want a healthy amount of players on whichever server they decide to play on and there aren't enough people interested in any flavor of P99 to support 3 well populated servers. Why the fuck is this so hard for you? Let's address each of these dumbass points (again)

1: Don't care about loot on any server
2: Don't care about blue (or green)
3: Don't care about blue raid scene (see my RNF posts making fun of it constantly)
4: Don't care about my blue characters/progression (have repeatedly said I'd prefer blue be wiped)

Literally every one of your talking points is stupid and doesn't apply to me and very likely doesn't apply to most people disagreeing with you. It's a cute strawman you're arguing with but give it a rest.
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Old 06-08-2022, 12:55 AM
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- They want a healthy amount of players on whichever server they decide to play on and there aren't enough people interested in any flavor of P99 to support 3 well populated servers. Why the fuck is this so hard for you? Let's address each of these dumbass points (again)

1: Don't care about loot on any server
2: Don't care about blue (or green)
3: Don't care about blue raid scene (see my RNF posts making fun of it constantly)
4: Don't care about my blue characters/progression (have repeatedly said I'd prefer blue be wiped)

Literally every one of your talking points is stupid and doesn't apply to me and very likely doesn't apply to most people disagreeing with you. It's a cute strawman you're arguing with but give it a rest.

First off, server pop is absolutley fine. Maybe not on blue, because you guys live in a beta hell hole of your own design, but green is just fine.

Why would anyone knowing the history of blue, having the option of green, ever want to go back?

That's not really a question, it's more of a statement, because the answer is obvious, no one would.

Again, blue is a victim of its own design and trying to force people back because yalls 13 year old pixels are stagnating is your own fault.

Thanks no thanks. I'll take a clean server with a good environment over that blue beta bucks server any day of the week.

And a lot of other people will too.

But hey, if you want a healthy pop so bad, quit your blue characters and join green.

It's literally as simple as that. You just don't want to.

Expecting green players to give up their good environment to be drawn into that suck hole of a server really speaks volumes to both the selfishness of your character, and the nosnense of your argument. It's something you'll say they should do, but arent willing to do yourself. If "mUh PoPuLaTiOnS" was such a big deal to you, you'd just join green. You want your cake and want to eat it too, and everyone else be damned.

"i DoNt PlAy EiThEr": Then why do you care where characters get merged? You dont play on blue, right?

"bUt My PoPuLaTiOnS.": You can always play on green, or green 2.0. Again, nobody wants to move their fresh wholesome green server characters to your server.

"nOtHiNg Is WrOnG wItH bLuE": Numbers speak for themselves, you can't argue math.

This thread is over, and while your emotional stuntedness will prevent you from seeing how wrong you are, you blue berries can keep brigading. I welcome it, just makes ya'll look more ridiculous.
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Old 06-07-2022, 08:14 PM
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if blue is considered a beta server, why isnt it named p99 beta server by now?
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Old 06-07-2022, 10:35 PM
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if blue is considered a beta server, why isnt it named p99 beta server by now?
Don't know, why dont you peruse the wiki and then address your question to Rogean.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Green_Server

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Although Blue's original purpose was to sever as a "Beta" server for Green, after Green's release the Blue (and Red?) will continue running, at the current (just before Luclin) point in the timeline. "Classically inspired" custom content may be added in the future.
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Old 06-07-2022, 09:43 PM
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I've never heard of a beta server that has more features and a better QoL(target cycling, pet windows, 10 hotkeys) than the suppose "finalized" server, sounds to me like you have which server is beta backwards.
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Old 06-07-2022, 10:32 PM
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I've never heard of a beta server that has more features and a better QoL(target cycling, pet windows, 10 hotkeys) than the suppose "finalized" server, sounds to me like you have which server is beta backwards.
because those features arent classic. Green is the most classic version of EQ we have available on the project.

None of those features existed on the timeline.

Blue was the testing grounds for a lot of things, and so everything from loot to progression to raid scene is super janky and bad.

Only people pushing for merges to blue are the ones that have invested YEARS into their characters there and dont want them to become obsolete.
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Old 06-08-2022, 03:55 AM
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Despite being drunk - as usual - when I'm on this forum, this thread obviously screams of either trolling or an inability to assilimate with normal humans.

OP often using the terms 'minority/majority' is a major tell. Redditors love those words. People who say this don't necessarily lack a real argument, but lack the ability to make it. The mindless majority and the vocal minority. One is correct because they agree and the other is bad because they disagree. So the story goes. It means nothing. Blanket statements aimed at no one with everything depending on subjection.

I agree with OP in regards to how they regard Blue - a fucked up beta full of pixel-obsessed nostalgia farmers - but if you want Green to be some perpetual existence then I have to disagree with your brain. If Green exists forever it's hardly different from Blue.
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Old 06-08-2022, 11:46 AM
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Despite being drunk - as usual - when I'm on this forum, this thread obviously screams of either trolling or an inability to assilimate with normal humans.

OP often using the terms 'minority/majority' is a major tell. Redditors love those words. People who say this don't necessarily lack a real argument, but lack the ability to make it. The mindless majority and the vocal minority. One is correct because they agree and the other is bad because they disagree. So the story goes. It means nothing. Blanket statements aimed at no one with everything depending on subjection.

I agree with OP in regards to how they regard Blue - a fucked up beta full of pixel-obsessed nostalgia farmers - but if you want Green to be some perpetual existence then I have to disagree with your brain. If Green exists forever it's hardly different from Blue.
Yeah I mean the fact of the matter is having three servers for PvE that all go to Velious just isn't viable with the current population. We'll end up with like a couple hundred each on Blue and Green 1.0, and then like 700 on Green 2.0 (700 is doable, but not great, until you hit the first expansion). If we had the population I would more than support keeping three servers open; I enjoy playing on both Green and Blue currently, but both are very underpopulated and top heavy and could use more people...I wish we had enough for three servers but we don't, we don't even have enough for two lol, but I'd rather have two somewhat underpopulated servers than 3 very underpopulated servers (this is a social game; as you said OP seems to have mental issues that prevent assimilation with normal humans so he probably just solos by himself the whole time and that's why he doesn't care about server population).

OP is obsessed with the idea that his accomplishments on Green mean something...they don't and neither do mine. But even if in his deluded mind he thinks they do, what he doesn't realize is keeping three PvE servers open would lead to no one even caring about Green 1.0 at all...it will just be the dead original version of Green 2.0. Merge the servers, have a period of healthy pop on one server for awhile, and then create Green 2.0.
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Old 06-08-2022, 04:51 PM
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Despite being drunk - as usual - when I'm on this forum, this thread obviously screams of either trolling or an inability to assilimate with normal humans.

OP often using the terms 'minority/majority' is a major tell. Redditors love those words. People who say this don't necessarily lack a real argument, but lack the ability to make it. The mindless majority and the vocal minority. One is correct because they agree and the other is bad because they disagree. So the story goes. It means nothing. Blanket statements aimed at no one with everything depending on subjection.

I agree with OP in regards to how they regard Blue - a fucked up beta full of pixel-obsessed nostalgia farmers - but if you want Green to be some perpetual existence then I have to disagree with your brain. If Green exists forever it's hardly different from Blue.
Correct. There are a good number of reddit people here, as well as those from sticky sweaty places such as 4chan. A lot of tells indeed! Sprinkle in some confirmation bias and oddball theories and here we are.
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Old 06-08-2022, 09:06 PM
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Correct. There are a good number of reddit people here, as well as those from sticky sweaty places such as 4chan. A lot of tells indeed! Sprinkle in some confirmation bias and oddball theories and here we are.
Reddit is a cess pool always has been and always will be.

I personally enjoy the people who think they're above it all, and post unironically thinking they arent. those are the best ones.
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