More proof that server is going to hell - Page 11

Autotune · #**101** 09-03-2011, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think they underestimated it so much as they can't do anything about it. I think they would hate to lose Xz's contributions as a Dev, and they don't want to be dishonest about anything because they feel the truth is that there actually is no unfair advantage for Xz and thus they have nothing to hide. How do you solve those problems without losing Xz as a Dev? You'd either have to have Xz lie about his play-character or switch Dev names -- neither of which actually changes anything. It would be dishonest.

And FWIW, I don't think the fact that he's an officer matters. That cat is already out of the bag. If he gets demoted to member, nobody will think any differently about him or his role, fair or not.

I don't know Xz, dunno how active he is as a developer. However, after reading the Uth-Nil convo log and seeing some of the TR members and people that supposedly know him say he doesn't develop very often/much, how is his contribution that great?

Supposedly by Uthgaards words "Xz doesn't develop shit" and nilbog doesn't disagree. Other's have said he only develops when it is of interest to his guild. So how is his contribution that great? Especially when only his guild and TMO will even be in VP for quite some time.

I dunno, maybe it's just me, but I don't see how you can get shit talked about you slacking as a Dev and then have such great contributions that you are a great asset. Unless you are a TR member or TMO member, why would anyone care about VP currently.

Correct me if i am wrong, but how many other guilds even give a flying fuck about VP atm with the current raid scene? I'm thinking only 2.

Chanur · #**102** 09-03-2011, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't know Xz, dunno how active he is as a developer. However, after reading the Uth-Nil convo log and seeing some of the TR members and people that supposedly know him say he doesn't develop very often/much, how is his contribution that great?

Exactly you don't know shit. One of the main developers and owners said he has contributed greatly. So stop running your cock holster about shit that has been addressed you worthless moron.

Daldolma · #**103** 09-03-2011, 01:50 PM

It's not that his contributions are "so great". It's just that they're contributions. I don't know anything about developing, but I'd imagine that when you find a capable Dev who has proven himself with years of work, you don't want to lose him as a Dev -- even if he isn't nearly as active as Uthgaard was.

And with regards to VP, I don't think there's any question that Xz was focusing on developing areas that interest him. But I don't think that's necessarily unreasonable.

Papa · #**104** 09-03-2011, 01:52 PM

So it comes down to who you trust:

Nilbog and Rogean... or Uthgaard.

Let's see... someone who jumps to conclusions, gains access to and leaks selective/partial info from only one guild website to mislead and misinform. Has ego issues. Thinks saying something over and over again will make it true although both his superiors say otherwise...

Or the creator of the project, the lead developer, the server administrator, lead programmer.

Hm, tough choice.

Autotune · #**105** 09-03-2011, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Chanur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Exactly you don't know shit. One of the main developers and owners said he has contributed greatly. So stop running your cock holster about shit that has been addressed you worthless moron.

222.09[00:53] <Uthgaard> he doesn't develop anything
223.[00:53] <nilbog> neither do you

seems Nilbog didn't disagree.

YendorLootmonkey · #**106** 09-03-2011, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mitic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

u are long enuf on the server to know different. srsly, why are YOU jumping on the bandwaggon...

I have enough experience with the history of shady shit going down 11+ years ago back on Xegony to have a certain perception of the way things go here, just like the rest of everyone else that is not TR, Mitic. Do you think you're going to merge with IB as part of Darkwind and they're just going to be like "Hey new Darkwind friends, here's what we've got going on, just so everyone knows..."

When I first started the server, it was like "Oh cool... fellow Xegony players! Haha, oh shit... they used to be in Inner Circle! Surely things have changed over the years!" and now it's like "Mmmm hmmm."

http://vbulletin.venatorsapentia.com...06&postcount=6

http://www.venatorsapentia.com/showp...2&postcount=15

http://forums.clant2k.com/showpost.p...&postcount=182

Spud · #**107** 09-03-2011, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jameshpulse [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://pastebin.com/ZeEmdGYH

read it fast

It took me about 5 min to read do I win a prize?

88.[23:50] <nilbog> you can talk to rogean about players. i like npcs. you know this. i don't even like people.

Sig worthy haha

Knuckle · #**108** 09-03-2011, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have enough experience with the history of shady shit going down 11+ years ago back on Xegony to have a certain perception of the way things go here, just like the rest of everyone else that is not TR, Mitic. Do you think you're going to merge with IB as part of Darkwind and they're just going to be like "Hey new Darkwind friends, here's what we've got going on, just so everyone knows..."

When I first started the server, it was like "Oh cool... fellow Xegony players! Haha, oh shit... they used to be in Inner Circle! Surely things have changed over the years!" and now it's like "Mmmm hmmm."

http://vbulletin.venatorsapentia.com...06&postcount=6

http://www.venatorsapentia.com/showp...2&postcount=15

http://forums.clant2k.com/showpost.p...&postcount=182

oh shit, yendor gravedigger with the hat trick.

nalkin · #**109** 09-03-2011, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because obviously his contributions are valued, but he wants to play. If he's removed from Dev duty, the whole server loses out on his work and you pile more onto the plates of other Devs. But from everything I can tell, his status as guildleader is completely overblown. He was instrumental in the forming of IB but if you speak to any TR member about him, he never leads raids and his attendance is pretty low. A lot of members don't even know him. He's basically an honorary officer -- he's not the lead man like Bumamgar was in WI.

It doesn't matter how much he plays. Personally I don't think a developer should be playing at all. It has to much potential to corrupt, you either do one or the other. There is a reason if you play D&D you don't play DM and a player.

Regardless of what Xzerion's real intentions were, if he didn't play the game (especially in the lead guild) then none of this speculation would have happened at all, because you would know his intentions were only to develop.

I would rather have a slower release of content then a chance that the server is corrupted by people who have power and who play the game.

Daldolma · #**110** 09-03-2011, 02:08 PM

It's really as simple as this: Xzerion doesn't have the ability to do what he's being accused of. He didn't have access to the DB, which would be the only way to recreate VP as it is on P99. At most, if you actually believe Xzerion was doing what he did in VP for TR info, he got them the same information that Nilbog had already posted on the P99 forums. This was confirmed by both Nilbog and Rogean, who say he did nothing wrong. It's silly to believe Nilbog and Rogean are in on some kind of conspiracy to recreate test servers for TR.