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[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by Steaks2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

sorry dude played a bard for 8 years on live , they are horrible till at LEAST luclin , they cant do anything other then swarm a bunch of crap in an outdoor zone , and with no 2 minute selo fuck that

not to mention mobs can occasionally smash you from far away , i wouldnt swarm anything on red

but yes my original comment holds true ,without FADE , bellow pulls and psalm of veeshan ( and at least GoD Haste song ) bards are garbage , epic is very useful proc for pure melee groups , and theres a dagger from tov that procs a similar haste with great stats , but i dont see anyone getting either of those anytime soon , if ever

but theres so many horrible bards on red and blue that just have no business playing one to begin with , they get one song for a bit of MR a fart haste song and little else , you going to call selos worth a spot in the group ? maybe if your that type , but would you rather look over and see a bard nirgon or another wizard

on beta there was a bard who got 50 first , he spent tons of time swarming , the day he got 50 he went to guk , tried to solo a trash mob , died , and his corpse rotted

id like to see what you could do in guk on a bard nirgon , granted you picked the easiest class in the game , nuke nuke oh shit someone is on me fade nuke nuke win or gate

Is this a troll?

0-You don't need selo's or any runspeed buff for ae kiting.
1-I ae kited from 2 to 32 on my Bard, lag and hitboxes were rarely an issue.
2-The best bard haste in kunark is like 45% if I remember correctly. That seems pretty good?
3-Bards get like 4 MR songs. What are you even talking about?
4-Selo's is a huge advantage in a group. Against me, a solo wizard is tough but still killable. A wizard and a Bard is just a death wish.
5-If someone died soloing a trash mob in guk, either they were really bad or they were trying to solo a mob that probably few other classes could solo. I have no issues soloing in guk.
6-A bard is still useful in a dungeon, as you still get the best resist songs in the game. For all your talk about how great wizards are, you say curiously little about resists.

For someone who claims to be an expert on Bards you sure are ignorant about them. Weren't you the same guy who said they couldn't solo pk anyone?

[Steaks2]

Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is this a troll?

0-You don't need selo's or any runspeed buff for ae kiting.
1-I ae kited from 2 to 32 on my Bard, lag and hitboxes were rarely an issue.
2-The best bard haste in kunark is like 45% if I remember correctly. That seems pretty good?
3-Bards get like 4 MR songs. What are you even talking about?
4-Selo's is a huge advantage in a group. Against me, a solo wizard is tough but still killable. A wizard and a Bard is just a death wish.
5-If someone died soloing a trash mob in guk, either they were really bad or they were trying to solo a mob that probably few other classes could solo. I have no issues soloing in guk.
6-A bard is still useful in a dungeon, as you still get the best resist songs in the game. For all your talk about how great wizards are, you say curiously little about resists.

For someone who claims to be an expert on Bards you sure are ignorant about them. Weren't you the same guy who said they couldn't solo pk anyone?

45% with no stats does not compare to the songs close to 75 with upwards of 100 point dmg shield and epic attack / str , you missed my point because you never played a bard past velious or p99

your 4 magic resist songs dont stack ( or they arent supposed to ) and only guardian rhythms adds enough to justify twisting endgame

the 2 chorus's ( Velious i believe ? ) Are good , till then suck it

as for you aoe kiting , you must suck because i saw you in oasis and talked to you about aoe kiting and you gave me like ten excuses and in 2 weeks you went from 40-42 doing specs for fucking 8 hours a day

if you knew how to aoe kite you do BB Guards and be done in 1 day , believe me

also if you think your spot in group would be better used adding 30 cold and 30 magic resist compared to having another wizard or cleric the jokes on you jack you value yourself more then others value you

you think you can solo a wizard? id like to see the video of you killing nirgon , i bet you do 10% before he sends you back to bind with a sore ass

you think you can melee a blue frog in guk at 50? id like to see it , youll get raped

and i never said bards werent useful , i played one for a reason i loved bard , they have endless utility if used right , i did some sick shit believe me , shit no one else did , i simply said the practical uses for one and only char you get on p99 isnt worth being a bard , period

every good raid will have a few , but not the amount in the game now

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by Steaks2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

your 4 magic resist songs dont stack ( or they arent supposed to ) and only guardian rhythms adds enough to justify twisting endgame

Guardians stacks with all the others, and is supposed to because it's classic. It adds just as much MR as Elemental/Purifying Rhythms. Please stop posting.

as for you aoe kiting , you must suck because i saw you in oasis and talked to you about aoe kiting and you gave me like ten excuses and in 2 weeks you went from 40-42 doing specs for fucking 8 hours a day

Firstly, it takes about 3 hours for me to do a level on specs. If I gained 2 levels in 2 weeks it was because I was playing for less than an hour a day. I'm doing my master's degree so I have less time to play eq. Secondly, our conversations consisted of you telling me to kite in BB. I don't do ae kiting in BB like you suggest because the amount of time it takes to amass a pull, plus my lack of experience with the zone, plus the probability of getting ganked mid-kite makes it too dangerous in my opinion.

also if you think your spot in group would be better used adding 30 cold and 30 magic resist compared to having another wizard or cleric the jokes on you jack you value yourself more then others value you

With a drum at level 50 it's more like 120 MR and 60 CR/FR (or DR/PR). I'm not sure of the exact numbers but just to give a comparison, my 60 Bard on blue99 with naggy drums gives 166 MR and 83 of the other resists.

you think you can solo a wizard? id like to see the video of you killing nirgon , i bet you do 10% before he sends you back to bind with a sore ass

Why do I need a video when a picture is worth a thousand words?

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In all seriousness, I've solo PKed players of every class in legitimate fights (except for Bards - my only kills on Bards have involved me snaring them mid-kite). I'm not bragging, I'm just saying that you have no idea how to play a Bard and that's what motivates your views on the class.

you think you can melee a blue frog in guk at 50? id like to see it , youll get raped

I never said "melee", I said "solo". Like, by using dots, slows, etc. Is this really that hard to understand? You have serious reading comprehension problems and I think everyone can see that you're being extremely silly here. I'm 95% sure you're just trolling since no one could be this obtuse.

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[Nirgon]

He's right about songs stacking.

He's wrong about being some kind of tough guy lol.

Show us more of all these kills. Think there's one where he got someone with rez effects, other dubious pictures of mobs being pulled around corpses : /.

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He's right about songs stacking.

He's wrong about being some kind of tough guy lol.

Show us more of all these kills. Think there's one where he got someone with rez effects, other dubious pictures of mobs being pulled around corpses : /.

You have the totally wrong idea about me. I'm not trying to be some internet badass, I can acknowledge that I'm not great at pvp. The point I'm trying to communicate isn't how good I am, but how bad Steaks (and others who believe Bards can't solo pk) is.

I think I've posted all but one screenshot of my kills on red99. I didn't SS every kill and the ones I did post, well, there's enough of them to show that I'm not full of shit. I mean, just check out the nihilum killshot thread :p. I'm just not going to dig them up for you. I think that's reasonable.

[Nirgon]

You're one of the more competent bards here.

I got a different angle from your post. My apologies, thought you were touting a Rambo bard murdering all lol.

Why the fuck aren't you at least paired up with someone?! Jeesh. Get a little Bundyquest in your life, feels good.

[Tassador]

i still dont know how to take a screenshot in this beotch.

[Steaks2]

im well aware of guardian stacking with elemental or purifying , i mentioned that in my post , its supposed to stack

and you didnt play 2 hours a week and work on your masters you were there for 8 hours a day , i was there remember

I WAS LEVEL 12 WHEN YOU WERE DOING SPECS AT 40 , now im 42 and im a fucking warrior


and as for you killing anyone yea you probably spam mezzed him so specs did the dmg , you sure didnt , and id sure love to see what would happen if you fought him AND MOBS WERENT INVOLVED YOU ASS CLOWN

and btw in any decent pvp battle you will be spamming mez to interrupt casters , twisting selos , dispelling and being cc'd yourself , you wont be able to keep anything up reliably , let alone guardian , elemental and selos , but im sure in your mind you are magically the most epic bard ever, almost everyone in mmo's now thinks they are the best at their class

but goodluck with your masters degree at clown college , who the fuck makes a bard on blue then makes another one on red ?

[Nirgon]

Dude Steaks you need to calm way down.

If you think bards suck, you are mistaken.

He's pestered me in zones many times before and been caught slippin' as well.

His screenshot leaves much to be desired :P.