2-boxing penalty

[Nirgon]

2 boxing punishment = You go to hell, you go to hell and you die.


The "worst" thing that happens is examples are made.

Get this through your fucking heads, DON'T DO IT.

[SamwiseRed]

Originally Posted by Littlegyno 9.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ban the offenders entire subnet. If one person in a city 2 boxes, you can be god damned sure somebody else there does too.

[bamzal]

2 boxers should perish !!!!

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by bamzal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

2 boxers should perish !!!!

2 boxers shouldn't get fingered.

They need to get fucked.

[Amelinda]

Comment to the individual who feels it's not fair to the person who shares his account info and gets his account banned.

When I was a player I was friends with 2 guys on the blue server. We all had each other's info. Till the day i saw one of the guys boxing our druid friend's account. I called our druid friend and his PW and my pw changed that night.

When you give your password to someone that makes you ultimately responsible for their actions while using your character. So that means if you share your info with someone and he ninja loots a corpse. Your character will probably eat a ban on your account and the person who was playing the character will eat a ban on their main.

So if you give your password to Nirgon and he chooses to 2-box your character then i catch him....i'm going to ban both accounts. and I hear it all. believe me. "But it wasn't my choice to 2-box. I did not CHOOSE to do this." You made your choice. You gave your account information to someone and s/he fucked you over.

I can tell you that nirgon is right. 100%. Each IP exemption takes me probably 3 minutes of time to do (Or more. Depending on how many accounts I am looking at) So I did 200 IP exemptions last week over the course of 2 evenings. Inevitably at least 2 of those accounts are going to show up being boxed. Because people as a rule are greedy and they think i'm stupid.

When you 2-box I see it as an incredible slap to the face anyway. But if you 2-box on an ip-exemption that *I* Granted then I see it as you basically spitting in my face then back handing me. I take it as a serious sign of lack of respect for the server staff and the work that we do here. If you 2-box on an ip exemption here then I feel that you obviously do not respect me, the server rules or the time and effort that we put forth to bring you the server.

That is exactly how i see it.

Some people feel this is too harsh. I think honestly the ones who feel it is too harsh are the ones who either (A) want to 2-box, (B) already secretly 2-box and haven't been caught yet or (C) have been busted 2-boxing.

and yes. I am this harsh on MQ and exploiting. but that's not what this thread is about.

[bigeasy]

Originally Posted by Amelinda [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Comment to the individual who feels it's not fair to the person who shares his account info and gets his account banned.

When I was a player I was friends with 2 guys on the blue server. We all had each other's info. Till the day i saw one of the guys boxing our druid friend's account. I called our druid friend and his PW and my pw changed that night.

When you give your password to someone that makes you ultimately responsible for their actions while using your character. So that means if you share your info with someone and he ninja loots a corpse. Your character will probably eat a ban on your account and the person who was playing the character will eat a ban on their main.

So if you give your password to Nirgon and he chooses to 2-box your character then i catch him....i'm going to ban both accounts. and I hear it all. believe me. "But it wasn't my choice to 2-box. I did not CHOOSE to do this." You made your choice. You gave your account information to someone and s/he fucked you over.

I can tell you that nirgon is right. 100%. Each IP exemption takes me probably 3 minutes of time to do (Or more. Depending on how many accounts I am looking at) So I did 200 IP exemptions last week over the course of 2 evenings. Inevitably at least 2 of those accounts are going to show up being boxed. Because people as a rule are greedy and they think i'm stupid.

When you 2-box I see it as an incredible slap to the face anyway. But if you 2-box on an ip-exemption that *I* Granted then I see it as you basically spitting in my face then back handing me. I take it as a serious sign of lack of respect for the server staff and the work that we do here. If you 2-box on an ip exemption here then I feel that you obviously do not respect me, the server rules or the time and effort that we put forth to bring you the server.

That is exactly how i see it.

Some people feel this is too harsh. I think honestly the ones who feel it is too harsh are the ones who either (A) want to 2-box, (B) already secretly 2-box and haven't been caught yet or (C) have been busted 2-boxing.

and yes. I am this harsh on MQ and exploiting. but that's not what this thread is about.

seems to me that the majority of the people that voted think the penalty on a first time offense is too harsh, but amelinda has clearly made her feelings clear on this thread several times, so the purpose of the poll is over my head since her feelings are the only one that counts as the server admin?

i seen stories in this thread about people being banned for 2 years for boxing but on various instances seen multiple players caught for exploiting and other cheats unbanned or slapped on the wrist with a suspension. clearly both are not treated the same.

confused. integrity of the server is important, but there seems to be quite a range of punishment here. there is no scaling, its either you get suspended for a week, or you get perma banned instantly without a suspension. perma banning accounts that have never been suspended is ludicrous, especially considering the dwindling population on this server.

[Bruno]

Originally Posted by bigeasy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i seen stories in this thread about people being banned for 2 years for boxing but on various instances seen multiple players caught for exploiting and other cheats unbanned or slapped on the wrist with a suspension. clearly both are not treated the same.

/confused

That's how I feel. I'm not really counting on my accounts ever being unbanned, seeing as it's been that long, but watching all of these people get leniency for what I consider significantly worse offenses is kind of annoying. Especially since besides the occasionally forum trolling, I help out the community in game and have donated to the server. These other people are exploiting, using MQ, training, ninja looting, and they received a de-level or weeks suspension. My feeling is if the admins are going to be strict on this policy, be strict across the board.

[bounky37]

Originally Posted by Amelinda [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Comment to the individual who feels it's not fair to the person who shares his account info and gets his account banned.

When I was a player I was friends with 2 guys on the blue server. We all had each other's info. Till the day i saw one of the guys boxing our druid friend's account. I called our druid friend and his PW and my pw changed that night.

That is exactly how i see it.

Not trying to take things out of context with this quote, the bolded part seemed like it was for your entire post.

Now when it comes to the person who was dual boxing your friend, you didn't do the right thing and report the dual boxer to get both accounts banned. Why would you go against the rules that you now strictly follow? At the time did they seem harsh for this situation?

My point being that in your own personal situation you could see that both accounts didn't deserve a ban. You do say that you were a player at the time so I get that you couldn't do it yourself, but the fact stays that in your personal situation with someone dual boxing someone you felt that a ban was not warranted.

[Silentone]

Originally Posted by Amelinda [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Comment to the individual who feels it's not fair to the person who shares his account info and gets his account banned.

When I was a player I was friends with 2 guys on the blue server. We all had each other's info. Till the day i saw one of the guys boxing our druid friend's account. I called our druid friend and his PW and my pw changed that night.

When you give your password to someone that makes you ultimately responsible for their actions while using your character. So that means if you share your info with someone and he ninja loots a corpse. Your character will probably eat a ban on your account and the person who was playing the character will eat a ban on their main.
So if you give your password to Nirgon and he chooses to 2-box your character then i catch him....i'm going to ban both accounts. and I hear it all. believe me. "But it wasn't my choice to 2-box. I did not CHOOSE to do this." You made your choice. You gave your account information to someone and s/he fucked you over.

I can tell you that nirgon is right. 100%. Each IP exemption takes me probably 3 minutes of time to do (Or more. Depending on how many accounts I am looking at) So I did 200 IP exemptions last week over the course of 2 evenings. Inevitably at least 2 of those accounts are going to show up being boxed. Because people as a rule are greedy and they think i'm stupid.

When you 2-box I see it as an incredible slap to the face anyway. But if you 2-box on an ip-exemption that *I* Granted then I see it as you basically spitting in my face then back handing me. I take it as a serious sign of lack of respect for the server staff and the work that we do here. If you 2-box on an ip exemption here then I feel that you obviously do not respect me, the server rules or the time and effort that we put forth to bring you the server.

That is exactly how i see it.

Some people feel this is too harsh. I think honestly the ones who feel it is too harsh are the ones who either (A) want to 2-box, (B) already secretly 2-box and haven't been caught yet or (C) have been busted 2-boxing.

and yes. I am this harsh on MQ and exploiting. but that's not what this thread is about.

So, Perun will suffer the same penalty as the person who ninja looted the RageFire cleric epic , right Amelinda?

i'm going to pretend that you didn't ask this in this thread.

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Silentone [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So, Perun will suffer the same penalty as the person who ninja looted the RageFire cleric epic , right Amelinda?

Let me help you.

YOUR GUILD ISNT SUPPOSED TO KNOW WHO PLAYS HERE.

ALSO


GO TO THE BLUE RNF


-THANKS,
SER NIRGON