Dark Ascension...phallax, quite the char

[President]

Originally Posted by gnomishfirework [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If they were sitting in the room, yea. It is there camp.

Otherwise, someone can call it without being there just because they have a tracker, and they can maximize their names without having to "claim" the camp as per the rules. This is the exact situation the rules are made to prevent.

If the rules aren't enforced to the letter there will be anarchy. Consistancy is key. Sure, maybe the OP was very courteous and willing to come to some agreement and made a great effort to do so despite Phallanx's douche baggery, but the rules man. The rules.

The rules say they are free to roam the zone if there is no competition. There wasn't competition, he was free to roam the zone. Once there is competition, he is required to pick a camp, of which the option wasn't given to him.

The rules were made to prevent an ench/nec whatever from claiming 4 camps in lower guk because he had the ability to move to each one at the time they spawned. They were not made to allow someone to run to a camp where the named/ph isn't up, kill the mobs in the room, and go "You weren't sitting right here it's mine now."

[soup]

Originally Posted by gnomishfirework [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If they were sitting in the room, yea. It is there camp.

Otherwise, someone can call it without being there just because they have a tracker, and they can maximize their names without having to "claim" the camp as per the rules. This is the exact situation the rules are made to prevent.

If the rules aren't enforced to the letter there will be anarchy. Consistancy is key. Sure, maybe the OP was very courteous and willing to come to some agreement and made a great effort to do so despite Phallanx's douche baggery, but the rules man. The rules.

Just like the rules say someone can take my camp if I leave Befallen for 40 seconds to port someone on a corpse run while knowing exactly what Gynok's PH timer is. Sure, the rules say they can do it, but you'd be hard pressed to find someone who wouldn't call it a 100% douche bag manuever.

It's a shame when people throw out any level of courtesy just because they know they can get what they want by yelling "The rules allow it!"

[soup]

It's even worse when you consider that it's not a clear cut case of the rules supporting Phallax, either.

[eqdruid76]

Originally Posted by Phallax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Show me the post about ME. And give me names of in-game. I gaurantee you pretty much everyone I encounter Im generous and helpful to...Even IB...

I can take a dump in a box and label it "gauranteed"...

guaranteed, even. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And I thought you were finished? Right or no, you're still a jerk.

[gnomishfirework]

Originally Posted by eqdruid76 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Isn't there another rule that states when you claim acamp, you must state as such in /shout?

I dunno. Im not gonna go read the rules again. I see no point until someone quotes something that contradicts some point I made so I can then find some way around being wrong.

I never have problems in game with camps unless some jerk comes along. I am courteous to the point that it makes people sick cause its just a game and I don't care enough to deal with it.

[gnomishfirework]

Originally Posted by soup [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just like the rules say someone can take my camp if I leave Befallen for 40 seconds to port someone on a corpse run while knowing exactly what Gynok's PH timer is. Sure, the rules say they can do it, but you'd be hard pressed to find someone who wouldn't call it a 100% douche bag manuever.

It's a shame when people throw out any level of courtesy just because they know they can get what they want by yelling "The rules allow it!"

I wouldn't expect courtesy when phat loots are at stake. Competition makes enemies of blood relations, let alone strangers.

[pickled_heretic]

I have no agenda here really but I want to add 2 things.

1. Phallax helped me out in sola one time when i lagged into the lava and crawled out at 10% into a bunch of clockwork gnomes that I was kos with. I was stuck FD there for about 5-10 minutes, did a /shout to the zone, and phallax was there shortly to regen/invis me. Thank you Phallax.

2. Camp rules are less than clear to me and asking for clarification from several people has resulted in more confusion. I've had the same person (an individual in a position of authority) say "no, you don't have to be at a camp to claim it" and "yes, you do have to be at a camp to claim it" within the space of 10 minutes. I was then insulted for asking for clarification about his statements. A lot of people seem to believe that camp rules are common sense. If it was common sense there would be no reason to have a rule in the first place and the fact that many things are not common sense is why laws and rules are made. I think we could save everyone some stress if the rules for camps were revised and updated a bit.

[hyzon]

Gnomish, I'm not sure if you've done anything but avoid reading every post in this thread that made sense.

[eqdruid76]

Originally Posted by pickled_heretic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have no agenda here really but I want to add 2 things.

1. Phallax helped me out in sola one time when i lagged into the lava and crawled out at 10% into a bunch of clockwork gnomes that I was kos with. I was stuck FD there for about 5-10 minutes, did a /shout to the zone, and phallax was there shortly to regen/invis me. Thank you Phallax.

2. Camp rules are less than clear to me and asking for clarification from several people has resulted in more confusion. I've had the same person (an individual in a position of authority) say "no, you don't have to be at a camp to claim it" and "yes, you do have to be at a camp to claim it" within the space of 10 minutes. I was then insulted for asking for clarification about his statements. A lot of people seem to believe that camp rules are common sense. If it was common sense there would be no reason to have a rule in the first place and the fact that many things are not common sense is why laws and rules are made. I think we could save everyone some stress if the rules for camps were revised and updated a bit.

Birds of a feather...

[gnomishfirework]

Originally Posted by hyzon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gnomish, I'm not sure if you've done anything but avoid reading every post in this thread that made sense.

I made some posts too.