Forceful Entry wipes pathetically to CT on a Free anc Clear Engage with 45 people - Page 11

Alarti0001 · #**101** 02-25-2013, 06:25 PM

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already said i would. if loot gets moved over from FE to TMO i'll give you 100k. if not green scale.

I wasn't at fay but accusing someone of kiting a mob when you have 5 in zone at the time of engage seems like a no brainer.

I was at trak and we were in a superior position and had our own guy train us then after a few mini trains while rezzing we killed him without any claim of tmo fte etc. If that one gets reserved there is something extremely wrong.

Nice =)

Tanthallas · #**102** 02-25-2013, 06:30 PM

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What was the outcome of this bet? Did GMs award TMO that Trak or Fay? Or does Alarti owe someone a green scale?

Looks like TMO owes mav a green scale.

Both petitions have been resolved.

Alarti0001 · #**103** 02-25-2013, 06:32 PM

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Looks like TMO owes mav a green scale.

Both petitions have been resolved.

Incorrect =)

Tanthallas · #**104** 02-25-2013, 06:35 PM

But thanks for getting my poor bard suspended for 'kiting' Fay while you had 5 people in the zone. There were 17 FE in zone when this 'kite' happened and there were 17 FE in zone that engaged Fay while your horde waited on the raft to zone in. I will be sure to repetition your Sev kite with the Fraps and all though.

If you think someone is kiting a mob, pull it off that person next time. Leave it to TMO to be complete fucking douchebags and petition for raid interference when they did not even have a raid force in the zone.

Learn to mobilize instead of petitioning imo.

Tanthallas · #**105** 02-25-2013, 06:38 PM

The penalty is a suspension for kiting. My bard is suspended.

You did not engage with a raidforce, hence you cannot claim you engaged the mob. If you engaged the mob, things may be different.

Then again, you did not have anyone on the agro list, so you had no part in killing Fay.

What is difficult about this, Alarti? Is TMO at the point now where they want handouts?

Ele · #**106** 02-25-2013, 06:39 PM

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If you think someone is kiting a mob, pull it off that person next time. Leave it to TMO to be complete fucking douchebags and petition for raid interference when they did not even have a raid force in the zone.

Learn to mobilize instead of petitioning imo.

GMs said not to take law into your own hands.

Tanthallas · #**107** 02-25-2013, 06:41 PM

Well then, why was FE not awarded trak loot when we 'did not take it into our own hands' even though we had FTE?

Because we did not throw mass bodies at it when TMO ran in.

Unfortunately, if you want to claim a kill you have to have a part in that kill. Even straight FTE is not enough.

Alarti0001 · #**108** 02-25-2013, 06:42 PM

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The penalty is a suspension for kiting. My bard is suspended.

You did not engage with a raidforce, hence you cannot claim you engaged the mob. If you engaged the mob, things may be different.

Then again, you did not have anyone on the agro list, so you had no part in killing Fay.

What is difficult about this, Alarti? Is TMO at the point now where they want handouts?

Here is your kite path STFU. Worthless cheater.

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Ele · #**109** 02-25-2013, 06:42 PM

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Well then, why was FE not awarded trak loot when we 'did not take it into our own hands' even though we had FTE?

Because we did not throw mass bodies at it when TMO ran in.

Unfortunately, if you want to claim a kill you have to have a part in that kill. Even straight FTE is not enough.

Ask a GM.

Frieza_Prexus · #**110** 02-25-2013, 06:43 PM

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If you think someone is kiting a mob, pull it off that person next time. Leave it to TMO to be complete fucking douchebags and petition for raid interference when they did not even have a raid force in the zone.

Learn to mobilize instead of petitioning imo.

I was not present for Fay, but I just wanted to make a general comment on what has been the custom for outdoor dragons. Generally, numbers in a zone have not materially mattered so long as a good faith mobilization is underway. In the majority (Possibly all?) of cases that I am aware of, a directly pulled mob (no kite, straight point A to point B), has never arrived in camp before a reasonably sized raidforce was present.

Also, TMO specifically tends to shy away from peeling kited mobs. I cannot remember the last time we've done it (if ever, though it is very possible). This is due to, again, how the raid scene developed during the IB/TMO days. TMO has had far too many negative consequences when peeling mobs that are supposedly kited. This, in turn, is responsible for TMO's reliance on FRAPS and petitions in such scenarios.

For good or ill, those are the established customs.