Myconid Spore King - Monk Solo

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe not "ranks", but if not, then "descriptors" of some sort.

That's already what the tiers are now. Certain people are just treating them like ranks, instead of the factual categorizations that they are of how someone soloed something.

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

With that approach you remove the "you get X solo points for not having Y" element from things, which removes a lot of the need for flame wars.

This doesn't exist in the first place. Everyone already gets their God tier kills recognized regardless of how they did it and everyone already gets the same title of Solo Master/Grandmaster/God/Legend.

The entirety of the flame war of this thread is because 2 people are incapable of acknowledging that soloing without outside buffs/consumables is a common way of playing the game and needs to be recognized as its own thing.

[bcbrown]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe not "ranks", but if not, then "descriptors" of some sort. If soloer #1 has to say "I soloed Froggy with three widgets, four whatzits, 17.5 wort potions, and here's my list of eighteen buffs ...", it's not as easy to share that solo, or compare it with other people's solos.

Yeah, I think standardized descriptors would be way more informative and less controversial. Stryker's right that self-buffed vs outside buffs is vastly different for melee vs casters. I don't think there's any easy or non-controversial way to rank that. But it should be non-controversial and semi-straightforward to categorize the various sorts of ways that make a kill easier or harder.

I also have a general uneasiness with the idea of it being competitive. Whether or not an encounter is trivial for someone playing another class just doesn't factor into whether or not I'm proud of my ability to have successfully killed it solo. Sure, the Ghoul Lord and the Froglok King aren't especially rare solo kills. But I attempted both, had a couple failed attempts, one or two deaths, and in the end soloed both. I'm proud of that and don't care whether anyone else cares.

I tried to solo an Ice Burrower yesterday, made like three attempts, wasn't successful. I'm sure I'll be able to succeed one of these days, and that accomplishment for myself won't be cheapened even if someone else thinks it's trivial because it doesn't summon and can be kited around.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's already what the tiers are now. Certain people are just treating them like ranks, instead of the factual categorizations that they are of how someone soloed something.



This doesn't exist in the first place. Everyone already gets their God tier kills recognized regardless of how they did it and everyone already gets the same title of Solo Master/Grandmaster/God/Legend.

The entirety of the flame war of this thread is because 2 people are incapable of acknowledging that soloing without outside buffs/consumables is a common way of playing the game and needs to be recognized as its own thing.

Remember when you said nothing is solo unless it is self buffed no consumables? You were claiming OP did not do a solo kill.

Remember when you wrote a fan fic where OP literally gets tortured?

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=442054

[Skarne]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Loramin is fine when he isn't tunnel visioning into me and blaming me for everything on these forums, while ignoring all other bad behavior.

For some reason he just got super flustered recently when I disagreed with him about an item. He's been following me around in many threads and attacking me with his same delusuions and lies over and over. Even when he'd never posted in the thread before. I already disproved his lies, but he doesn't care about facts when he acts like this.

Hopefully this will calm him down, and teach him to stop spamming threads. Maybe he will re-read this thread and realize how he abused his wiki powers and sided with trolls over OP, who was just trying to show off a cool video.

Back on topic:

Reposting OP's epic video where he kills Fungi King solo with his monk, no consumables:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wONdIYAofyQ

What a whack way to get another jab in.

[bcbrown]

Originally Posted by Skarne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What a whack way to get another jab in.

My favorite part is the little "back on topic" copy/paste after the off-topic stuff.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Skarne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What a whack way to get another jab in.

If you say so. At the end of the day Loramin will now no longer attack me across multiple threads, spamming them with nonsense.

That is a win for everyone.

Back on topic:

Reposting OP's epic video where he kills Fungi King solo with his monk, no consumables:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wONdIYAofyQ

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Remember when you said nothing is solo unless it is self buffed no consumables? You were claiming OP did not do a solo kill.

That's my own personal definition of the word solo and is a different thing than a tier system, which obviously recognizes different variations of soloing.

Too bad this has been said 100 times now and you still fail to comprehend.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

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Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's my own personal definition of the word solo and is a different thing than a tier system, which obviously recognizes different variations of soloing.

Too bad this has been said 100 times now and you still fail to comprehend.

Thank you for admitting it is now your personal definition and not the definition of solo other people agree with. There was no reason for you to unilaterally edit the wiki tiers to reflect your personal definition.

And yes, you claimed your personal definition was fact:

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You two clowns are incapable of comprehending the simplest things people say.

Solo means no outside buffs and no consumables. That's the ENTIRE discussion that's been taking placing in this thread from the start, and was explicitly stated yet again in the post you quoted. Jesus christ.

Back on topic:

Reposting OP's epic video where he kills Fungi King solo with his monk, no consumables:

https://www.youtube.com/

[Zuranthium]

Getting an outside buff factually requires another player. That's not a personal opinion. Exactly as the quote says, LOL, you are incapable of comprehending the simplest things.

I'm not interested in debating any further semantics and strawmans on the topic. You waste everyone's time.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Getting an outside buff factually requires another player. That's not a personal opinion. Exactly as the quote says, LOL, you are incapable of comprehending the simplest things.

I'm not interested in debating any further semantics and strawmans on the topic. You waste everyone's time.

See? One post later and your personal definition is a "fact" again.

Multiple posters, including myself, disagree with your personal definition that getting outside buffs turns a solo kill into a group kill.

Factually speaking a logged out character cannot group with another player. The Enchanter, Shaman, and Cleric who buffed OP did not interact with OP's Fungi King kill at all. The video evidence proves this. OP did the kill 100% solo.

I've already done the math showing VoG + Aego + FoS was like 7-8 wort pot charges for OP's video. There is no reason mathematically to punish OP for wanting to save 1600pp on a 10 Dose Wort Pot.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=651

Here is the math showing the wort pot equivalent to OP's buffs of VoG + Aego + FoS. In that post I said 10 charges, but I forgot to include OP's regen and the fact he could use stave of shielding or dain hammer without those buffs. So its really like 7-8 wort pot charges if OP didn't have VoG + Aego + FoS. This is like 2100-2400 HP, which is less than a reaper. OP has 3.7k HP withpout FoS + Aego, and without Major/Arch Shielding.

Back on topic:

Reposting OP's epic video where he kills Fungi King solo with his monk, no consumables:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wONdIYAofyQ