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Old 07-25-2019, 03:08 PM
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There's nothing in the world that exposes me to more second-hand embarrassment than internet people debating what video game tasks do or do not require their precious skill.
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Old 07-25-2019, 03:25 PM
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There's nothing in the world that exposes me to more second-hand embarrassment than internet people debating what video game tasks do or do not require their precious skill.
Esports are the #2 sport in the world behind soccer. By the time your 60 (if you’re not already) l, video games will be the most popular “sport” in the world. Every kid in America under the age of 14 no longer watches television, they play video games, or watch other people play video games on twitch or YouTube.
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Old 07-25-2019, 03:27 PM
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Esports are the #2 sport in the world behind soccer. By the time your 60 (if you’re not already) l, video games will be the most popular “sport” in the world. Every kid in America under the age of 14 no longer watches television, they play video games, or watch other people play video games on twitch or YouTube.
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Old 07-25-2019, 03:31 PM
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I would examine that claim based upon the activity in question. Let's take the old ToV pulls to the ent as an example:

You can only understand a virtual 3-dimensional space so far before you run out of space to explore, and this can be said for Spells and in-game Actions. It is possible without ever having played the game to mathematically plot the quickest path for a character to take based on their move speed, target's move speed, distance to travel, spells available, and distance moved/second where there will never be a way to improve. If you accept that your character will always move at a certain speed, the dragons would have moved at a certain speed, and the zone isn't geographically changing in any way, it's entirely possible that someone with no prior EverQuest experience could do what you've done rendering your 'skill' obsolete.

So to answer your question with another question - Can you call it a skill when it's applied math?
The problem here is that you're assuming NToV is a static environment. It's not. There are many variables you can't account for (see: your guild leader training wyverns).

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I doubt you spend much time --if at all--talking to other people without failing to be condescending so it's not your fault for misunderstanding.
How does being condescending relate in any way with what you feel is a misunderstanding?
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Old 07-25-2019, 03:34 PM
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Old 07-25-2019, 04:00 PM
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The problem here is that you're assuming NToV is a static environment. It's not. There are many variables you can't account for (see: your guild leader training wyverns).
I never argued it was static - poor attempt at a strawman - but it IS bound by very specific and observable rules (respawn timers, roaming paths, aggro range) Rules that can be memorized and exploited.

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How does being condescending relate in any way with what you feel is a misunderstanding?
Correction - again - you failed to be condescending. Just like you failed to strawman my previous point.
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Old 07-25-2019, 04:42 PM
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I never argued it was static - poor attempt at a strawman - but it IS bound by very specific and observable rules (respawn timers, roaming paths, aggro range) Rules that can be memorized and exploited.



Correction - again - you failed to be condescending. Just like you failed to strawman my previous point.
This really highlights just how little experience and understanding you have with the game. EverQuest isn't a perfect-information game. You can't memorize all the moving parts, player actions, server and programming quirks going on in ToV. There is simply too much hidden information from the user.

Your half baked pseudo intellectual nonsense is exhausting. You're like a poorly sketched draft of what a child believes a clever individual sound like.

I'm done wasting any more time with this. Good luck in life.
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Old 07-26-2019, 04:37 PM
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Esports are the #2 sport in the world behind soccer. By the time your 60 (if you’re not already) l, video games will be the most popular “sport” in the world. Every kid in America under the age of 14 no longer watches television, they play video games, or watch other people play video games on twitch or YouTube.
If video games are a sport, so are chess and spelling bees.
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Old 07-26-2019, 04:48 PM
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If video games are a sport, so are chess and spelling bees.
Yeah i hear you. I played sports my whole life too so I get the "Sport" debate. Really only the competition is similar.

But you can make more money being a pro Dota 2 player than a pro tennis player
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Old 07-26-2019, 05:43 PM
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Yeah i hear you. I played sports my whole life too so I get the "Sport" debate. Really only the competition is similar.

But you can make more money being a pro Dota 2 player than a pro tennis player
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