Forced Rotation Isn't Classic

[Supreme]

Originally Posted by Zexa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't muddy the waters on this. These very boards were flooded with your members crying about how we received unfair GM assistance and other unfounded conspiracy theories.

IB had no reason to complain because we have been rolling your guild. The first time this trend was reversed was on the temporary forums when, unlike anyone else, there was video evidence of some scrubs pulling Phinny through a wall after being warned about the seahorses being an intended part of the encounter.

I'll admit to recently complaining about this new EQ affirmative action policy. We work hard to be better than you, but the noob quota needs to be filled it seems.

Congrats on your AEless Vox and "server first legit"(lol) Mayong kill.

Your post reeks of High School "we are better than you" mantra that only sub-voting juveniles are remotely interested in. Congrats you are the first on a EMU server to kill content that was created 10 years ago! If you are so uber then why are you here stroking each other here when you could be doing it on LIVE?? Rolling Transcendence....seriously.

IB was not complaining because they did not have to share anything for a time. Now is the time to share. The server is not all yours and apparently person(s) have realized that it is not "Just IB" and want to make sure that they promote a healthy community. I am positive that given time we will see more and more guilds able and asking to be a part of a sharing system.

Get over yourself already.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Supreme [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wow.

Your post betrays your intelligence and maturity. All i can see lately is the serious butthurt posts of IB about a forced rotation.

You really have only yourselves to blame for all of this.

My intelligence and maturity causes me to directly address and defeat the arguments you bring up.
Your intelligence and maturity causes you to try and attack my character while ignoring the content of my words.

You see what you want to see I guess.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Supreme [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

IB was not complaining because they did not have to share anything for a time.

This makes no sense.. ..hang on.

Originally Posted by Supreme [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

IB was complaining because they did not have to share anything for a time and now they do.

fix'd?

If so, allow me to retort:

IB was never in a situation where we didn't have to share. The DDOS attacks, mob issues, and server viability issues ensured that we didn't get the first shot at the content we worked so hard to get to before it became available to more people. We deserved that shot and had the rug pulled out from under us. We were stuck doing menial bullshit for weeks while the undedicated masses had a carebears dreamshot at catching up. Now that content is more available, these pricks who have trashed us for weeks demand that we give them equal treatment.

This is why IB was complaining.

[Supreme]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My intelligence and maturity causes me to directly address and defeat the arguments you bring up.
Your intelligence and maturity causes you to try and attack my character while ignoring the content of my words.

You see what you want to see I guess.

Attack what character. I do not even know you.

I can only use what you post on these forums to reference the kind of person i am dealing with.

Which began with your OP directed towards me. Please do not allow your emotions to be so easily controlled because self reflection has left you guessing.

[rachel]

Hello , I for one applaud the Gms. Their decision is very fair to everyone.

I would ask people on live to share one of their camps. At times they would Ks me and I was forced to call in a gm, as a last resort after asking to share. The Gm would make the other party share spawns, or the other party would be ported away/banned. That's the way it worked.


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Sharing is caring! Can't we play nice and let everyone enjoy the server.

[Supreme]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We deserved that shot and had the rug pulled out from under us. We were stuck doing menial bullshit for weeks while the undedicated masses had a carebears dreamshot at catching up. Now that content is more available, these pricks who have trashed us for weeks demand that we give them equal treatment.

This is why IB was complaining.

Wait you deserved that shot and had the rug pulled out based on your opinion? So this is more about what you feel you are entitled to and less about what is fair?

You must be making up for your failures on live to have to come to a EMU server to try and fight over (again) 10 year old content!

Take a moment and read the quote again. You are doing yourself NO favors.

[Zithax]

Originally Posted by rachel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hello , I for one applaud the Gms. Their decision is very fair to everyone.

I would ask people on live to share one of their camps. At times they would Ks me and I was forced to call in a gm, as a last resort after asking to share. The Gm would make the other party share spawns, or the other party would be ported away/banned. That's the way it worked.


Sharing is caring! Can't we play nice and let everyone enjoy the server. Not just the top guilds.

Where were all these people when we beta tested anyway?

I honestly can't tell if this is a joke or not.

Originally Posted by Supreme [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wait you deserved that shot and had the rug pulled out based on your opinion? So this is more about what you feel you are entitled to and less about what is fair?

You must be making up for your failures on live to have to come to a EMU server to try and fight over (again) 10 year old content!

Take a moment and read the quote again. You are doing yourself NO favors.

sup troll

[Supreme]

Originally Posted by Zithax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

sup troll

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[Wrei]

You know if GM's are intent on "keeping everyone happy" and try to be "fair" (fair being w/e the gm's decide), what is the real issue here?

A. Is it the "experience" of re-living raid bosses? If you ask me that nostalgia gets old after killing any raid boss twice.

B. Is it the thrill of competing vs another rival guild?

C. Is it the potential of loot upgrades you may get for your toons?


You have 1 guild who is intent on re-living the full experience which was mostly about competition. I've played since Classic in a high end raiding guild, quit after PoP and moved on to WoW with some RL friends. WoW players never understood "the competitive" element because everything was catered to their needs.

In EQ when an officer shouts "GTF here at X zone" it meant gtf there right now, NOT after you banked your shit, not after you logged on an alt, NOT after you wait for 1 more spawn to pop, because if a few members slacked, a competing guild would already be there buffing and be ready to pull a boss. Look at every top guild in WoW atm and the majority of them have an EQ background, because they had raiding mentality. The casual minded players however want the same stuff the raiders want with as little effort as possible. Talking about how they got more RL issues, limited playtime blah blah blah... well guess what? You don't have to raid and a lot of you won't and there's NOTHING wrong with that. Afraid you won't see Naggy? Plenty of other guilds will get their naggy shot when a different tier of raiding pops in, do you think IB or trans will waste their time doing naggy when better content pops up? No, not if they are true raiding guilds.

So what this all means is that a bunch of casual minded players did not want to show effort in competing, decided to take action by actively sending emails to the gm's who eventually caved in to their needs. So how do you fix it? Well if your completely going to take out the "competition" element out of EQ, why not take it a step further, and just completely emulate WoW by doing these bosses as instances?

Yeah, Gm pops each boss per timer to EACH guild that wants a shot at it, i mean if your dead serious about sharing 1 boss mob with potentially 5+ other guilds eventually, why not just pop 1 for each guild? Your already telling your player base when you can kill a boss, may as well give 1 to everyone.

This is why this whole discussion is so pointless and why GM's should NEVER have gotten involved even if All trans people decided to do a mass suicide pact in RL, letting people resolve the issues would have been far wiser in the Long term of things....

[Finawin]

Originally Posted by Allizia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I come from both a PVP server and Township Rebellion on live, I understand where you guys are coming from and what you are trying to do. We used to whipe the server clean daily of anything that resembled a raid mob for no other reason than to prevent any other guild from getting remotely close to us (loot rotted about 90% of the time). We were extremely effective at this, and the GM's eventually got tired of it and forced rotations on us (Yes, GM forced rotations on live).

This is not live though, these are not new encounters and this is a nostalgic representation of a 10 year old game. Is 4 guilds getting 1 Naggy a month any better then 1 guild getting 4 Naggy and the others get nothing? No. There are 300+ people on this server, and they will eventually want to experience the raid side of things.

I fully embrace and expect other guilds to get into the rotation, and I will support it and even offer advice if needed. For me, killing Naggy at this point is about as exciting as heating up a pizza, but I enjoy watching others experience it for the first time. The people on this server came to relive or experience(for the first time) classic, including the raids, not to watch IB/Trans kill Naggy for the 36th time.

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