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Old 09-09-2010, 08:32 AM
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There is effectively no difference between pickpocketing engaged mobs and a KS, and you can only dodge this lack of distinction by shifting the argument..
I have yet to see any response to this point over 11 pages. Also, Noleaf, no you're not taking it too seriously. Actually, it looks like the only people who are flaming over this are those who don't want to hear that what they're doing is wrong.
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Old 09-09-2010, 08:36 AM
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I'm not flaming and I don't think its illegal. Pick your engagements...if there is a rogue around, find out where he is, quit ruining my immersion. I'm not a rogue, but this is a trademark skill. Limiting pickpocket? /slashwrists.
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Old 09-09-2010, 08:41 AM
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I'm not flaming and I don't think its illegal. Pick your engagements...if there is a rogue around, find out where he is, quit ruining my immersion. I'm not a rogue, but this is a trademark skill. Limiting pickpocket? /slashwrists.
look, there is no official policy so don't start cutting. my opinion is just my opinion, and really if you want to PP my mobs, or your groups mobs or whomever by all means.

Just don't expect to make many friends. I'm actually shocked at people claiming their guilds allow rogues to PP gems off hate/fear trash. This was a /guildremove offense on Rodcet Nife. We also had an in tact and heavily read black list, so perhaps I'm more adjusted to consequence for my actions having played a rogue as my main from 99-04.
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Old 09-09-2010, 08:44 AM
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There is effectively no difference between pickpocketing engaged mobs and a KS, and you can only dodge this lack of distinction by shifting the argument.
There is a difference. Any loot thats worth anything is not pick pocketable. You get maybe a gem once in a while or a few PP.

Lets take the same issue with disarm. I can disarm anything as can a trained ranger. When they do that to an engaged mob and someone else picks up the weapon, is that a KS?

Hint: If a Rogue is coming in for a pick, root the mob. It will clobber him.

Here maybe this will help:
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Old 09-09-2010, 08:46 AM
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There is a difference. Any loot thats worth anything is not pick pocketable. You get maybe a gem once in a while or a few PP.
Black Sapphires run 4,000pp, Blue Diamonds 1500pp.

Also, "once in a while" if you're stationed at Allizewsaur means "everytime he spawns with a gem" due to the length of the fight for the farmer.
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Old 09-09-2010, 08:50 AM
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Black Sapphires run 4,000pp, Blue Diamonds 1500pp.

Also, "once in a while" if you're stationed at Allizewsaur means "everytime he spawns with a gem" due to the length of the fight for the farmer.
you have a rogue with your wife partner right?

If you could group with her rogue for a while and farm alliz and see how many gems she can fake "steal" from you versus how many that drop.

you will be shocked.
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Old 09-09-2010, 08:52 AM
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you have a rogue with your wife partner right?

If you could group with her rogue for a while and farm alliz and see how many gems she can fake "steal" from you versus how many that drop.

you will be shocked.
I won't be shocked. Every single gem on Allize's loot table will be pickpocketed with 100% guarantee before he dies (assuming the rogue is not caught and gets aggro).

There really is no arguement on that point, there's still the arguement for/against PPing, but yea on Allize every single gem will be PP'd.

Also, Meepo was my main, kashi was hers. I wanted a rogue, and she wanted my mage, so I took over Kashi's account and created Azeth on it for some mage PL.
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Old 09-09-2010, 08:52 AM
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Still don't think Rogues are that notorious.

On a side note: Gynok dropped platinum and gold ring for me. Hurray for a 45 minute camp to finish Paw.
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Old 09-09-2010, 08:55 AM
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Still don't think Rogues are that notorious.

On a side note: Gynok dropped platinum and gold ring for me. Hurray for a 45 minute camp to finish Paw.

Grats!
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Old 09-09-2010, 08:57 AM
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There is a difference. Any loot thats worth anything is not pick pocketable. You get maybe a gem once in a while or a few PP.
This is a distinction without a difference. OK so you're only KSing part of my mob. Excellent.

Yes. The ranger's stealing loot. I do feel bad for the poor guy though, and I'd prolly help him out the same way I would a newb. And his friends/guildies should help him out, because like the rogue, he's a low earner.

But anyway, you're trying to shift the argument again, to relative soloing power of many classes vs. rogues/rangers.
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