Shadows of Luclin server

[thufir]

Originally Posted by immaterial [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i don't know why it's so surprising.

It's surprising to him because as an endgame raider type, Luclin clearly improved the game. It made it easier to level up alts, and the existence of AAs encouraged everyone to stay in the high end game. Raids, and the key quests that led to the raids, were very long, so raiders always had something to do.

As someone who isn't an endgame raider type, Luclin clearly killed the game. It sucked everyone away from lower level zones that weren't PC, and the existence of AAs encouraged everyone to stay in the high end game anyway, so you couldn't really LFG outside of PC. Raids, and the key quests that led to the raids, were very long, so people who didn't have as much time were left out in the cold.

It's about the philosophy of playing the game, and I've found that endgame raiders generally don't accept that anyone would be playing EQ for any other reason, so it's difficult for them to understand.

[Tann]

Originally Posted by thufir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's surprising to him because as an endgame raider type, PoP clearly improved the game.

FTFY

[AzzarTheGod]

8.5k views in a random Luclin thread, you know Luclin doesn't have to rap, its gonna do numbers.

Let them post against it, Luclin does numbers.

Luclin brings in donations from the largest donor group, the raiders.

[heartbrand]

PoP gave a plethora of things to do for non-raiders and a vibrant economy. Did you not see the 150+ people in BoT on a week night during live?

[Baler]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

PoP gave a plethora of things to do for non-raiders and a vibrant economy. Did you not see the 150+ people in BoT on a week night during live?

If they could add the zones from PoP to p99 I would never stop playing, ever. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
I loved PoP,. but I'm personally not a big fan of Luclin.

[Sebastionleo]

What needs to happen is Luclin and POP without the Bazaar, the ports from Nexus down to old world, and the POK books. Introduce the levelling zones and the raid zones, and get rid of all the stuff that ruined the community. I feel like there is no possible downside to this.

[CoffeeBreath]

Originally Posted by Sebastionleo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What needs to happen is Luclin and POP without the Bazaar, the ports from Nexus down to old world, and the POK books. Introduce the levelling zones and the raid zones, and get rid of all the stuff that ruined the community. I feel like there is no possible downside to this.

Makes perfect sense but the autists won't allow it. I would vote with my wallet for this.

[thufir]

Originally Posted by CoffeeBreath [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Makes perfect sense but the autists won't allow it. I would vote with my wallet for this.

That's the second time I've seen some dude claim autism from Nilbog and the other devs who won't let them have what they want, while in the same breath promising them money if they give them what they want.

I don't understand this strategy. Does this work for you guys in RL?

[salimoneus]

Originally Posted by Sebastionleo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What needs to happen is Luclin and POP without the Bazaar, the ports from Nexus down to old world, and the POK books. Introduce the levelling zones and the raid zones, and get rid of all the stuff that ruined the community. I feel like there is no possible downside to this.

There is nothing classic about bringing in half an expansion. That just seems like a really bad idea, as the mechanics would completely change from the original.

Sorry peeps, just give up your dreams of SoL in any form at P99. The devs have absolutely no interest in going past Velious, they have made this very clear many times. I don't think they really care if a few dozen people would love SoL. Never going to happen here. I'm sure there are other places where people can find that if desired.

Haynar wants to play too at some point, and he can't do that if he's continuously debugging new expansions, especially one which many feel was the beginning of the erosion of the "Classic Everquest" experience.

[Sebastionleo]

Originally Posted by salimoneus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is nothing classic about bringing in half an expansion. That just seems like a really bad idea, as the mechanics would completely change from the original.

Sorry peeps, just give up your dreams of SoL in any form at P99. The devs have absolutely no interest in going past Velious, they have made this very clear many times. I don't think they really care if a few dozen people would love SoL. Never going to happen here. I'm sure there are other places where people can find that if desired.

Haynar wants to play too at some point, and he can't do that if he's continuously debugging new expansions, especially one which many feel was the beginning of the erosion of the "Classic Everquest" experience.

A few dozen people? There are more people who want it than who don't, its just the people who don't want it are more vocal, constantly trash talking it, while the people who want it usually just quietly vote for it on polls.

The Devs have said they won't go to Luclin, but they have also said they plan on doing something past velious. They've yet to see a server 4 years into Velious where people are bored of the same raid mobs over and over again, I wouldn't be surprised to see some form of Luclin, be it on this server, or a mirror server.