Russians Behind DNC attack!

[Jarnauga]

Originally Posted by Jarnauga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hey look i found it before you on their website: http://news.heartland.org/editorial/...mate-change-97

Let me read that.

Ok the whole point of his article is "they did the math wrong, we did it better". I'd also point that this "heartland institude" is by no mean a scientific entity, but a "conservative and libertarian public policy think tank".. so a lobby. A lobby that got payed by the tobacco industry to " question the links between tobacco smoking, secondhand smoke, and lung cancer and the social costs imposed by smokers. " which i doubt is "scientific".

Also apparently:

In 2008, the Heartland Institute published a list purporting to identify "500 Scientists with Documented Doubts of Man-Made Global Warming Scares”. The Sydney Morning Herald reported that the work of Jim Salinger, chief scientist at New Zealand's National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research, was "misrepresented" as part of a "denial campaign". In response to criticism, the Heartland Institute changed the title of the list to “500 Scientists Whose Research Contradicts Man-Made Global Warming Scares.” Heartland did not remove any scientist's name from the list. Avery explained, "Not all of these researchers would describe themselves as global warming skeptics...but the evidence in their studies is there for all to see.” The Institute's president, Joseph Bast, argued that the scientists "have no right—legally or ethically—to demand that their names be removed" from Heartland's list.

Also that great billboard sign:
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which is so dumb i don't even know where to begin.

Plus: https://www.theguardian.com/environm...ming-consensus the actual scientist that wrote that article answering.

Also worth mentioning that the Wall Street Journal is owned by Rupert Murdoch..? if you don't think there's a bias here, i don't know what to do for you/

I believe scientists, you believe a (by definition biased) think tank.

[Daywolf]

There is definitely without a doubt no such thing as man-made global warming. I don't get it why people actually still follow that religion here in 2016, apart from mostly those with an agenda (globalism, redistribution of wealth etc). And the same leaders that promote this hoax also seem to be making Russia out to be our enemy that we need to unite behind them to fight. These doomsayers are leading us to an actual doomsday!

[Jarnauga]

Lol apparently that heartland institude had some leaks

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...ate-scepticism

The document entitled "2012 Climate Strategy" (pdf) is also already getting lots of attention. It shows that Heartland will "increase climate project fundraising" by "pursuing additional support from the Charles G. Koch Foundation" who "returned as a Heartland donor in 2011 with a contribution of $200,000". It adds: "Other contributions will be pursued for this [climate] work, especially from corporations whose interests are threatened by climate policies."

the direct funding by Heartland – and its "anonymous donor" – of various climate sceptic scientists:
Our current budget includes funding for high-profile individuals who regularly and publicly counter the alarmist AGW message. At the moment, this funding goes primarily to Craig Idso ($11,600 per month), Fred Singer ($5,000 per month, plus expenses), Robert Carter ($1,667 per month), and a number of other individuals, but we will consider expanding it, if funding can be found.

That's your best source ? really ?

[Xaanka]

Originally Posted by big_ole_jpn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i agree we should knowingly trigger mass extinction events cuz "life finds a way"

the whole point is that, we know from physical evidence that the earth goes through heating + cooling cycles and has been in a heating cycle since the ice age. accelerated heating cycles are not unusual, nor is the current one. we already knows what happens to animal populations during these cycles, and how our planet responds to it, yet we still believe the current narrative of "the world will enter thermal runaway and everything will go extinct." the physical evidence just doesn't back this narrative up. the problem with global warming is, people know what answer they want before they do the research. the sum of evidence should dictate the answers, rather than the other way around.

[Xaanka]

it wasn't even that long ago when the idea of plate tectonics was demonized lol

[Jarnauga]

Originally Posted by Daywolf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is definitely without a doubt no such thing as man-made global warming.

Ok you beat me..

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..not ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by Jarnauga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol apparently that heartland institude had some leaks

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...ate-scepticism





That's your best source ? really ?

So you are anti-corperation?
That's a hitpiece btw, injected opinion your hilighting. The guardian is well known for that. I'm cautious when linking them here.

[Xaanka]

Originally Posted by Jarnauga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok you beat me..

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..not ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

lol you literally posted two visual graphs that show conflicting data. the first one shows a 1*c shift from lowest to highest, while the second suggests a 6*c shift over the same time period. also just lol at believing in greenhouse runaway.

[Xaanka]

i trust that about as much as i trust Shenzhen air quality data from the Chinese government

[Jarnauga]

Originally Posted by Daywolf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you are anti-corperation?
That's a hitpiece btw, injected opinion your hilighting. The guardian is well known for that. I'm cautious when linking them here.

I don't care about corporations as long as they're not lobbying to change laws against the common good just to get more dollars, ie tobbaco with "hey tobbacco is good for your health", coal "coal is clean !", energy lobbies "climate change doesn't exist". It's not even limited to corporations, it's the exact-same-modus-operandi for christian groups and denying evolution.