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[Maner]

Originally Posted by Freakish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

we don't camp out inside zones on top of golem spawn.

Yes you do you did it last night.

Oh that was alts it wasn't actually us.

Oh ok.

Aww I'm sorry that as a guild we don't go after the fear golems. However as a smaller group of friends there are some people who I guess camp alts out for the golems in fear now. Can't really be upset over a practice you started... AM said the golems should be considered raid targets from the start. Which means no camping in zone, but you can thank the people like FoH and Ven for how they are done now.

[Samoht]

lol @ the premise that "alts" don't count as organized guild activity

[Victorio]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol @ the premise that "alts" don't count as organized guild activity

Organized guild activity is something organized. Posted, tracked, batphoned, for dkp, etc. A group of csg camping fungi is not a csg raid or guild event. Likewise a group of AM camping golems is not an AM raid or guild event.

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by Victorio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Organized guild activity is something organized. Posted, tracked, batphoned, for dkp, etc. A group of csg camping fungi is not a csg raid or guild event. Likewise a group of AM camping golems is not an AM raid or guild event.

thought AM said they were raid targets?

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Victorio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Organized guild activity is something organized. Posted, tracked, batphoned, for dkp, etc. A group of csg camping fungi is not a csg raid or guild event. Likewise a group of AM camping golems is not an AM raid or guild event.

I feel like if we take the words "batphoned" and "DKP" from your definition of "organized" guild activity because not all guilds use those, then suddenly it does become organized guild activity to agree in advance to camp your "alts" out at golems and then log-in said "alts" when your "tracker" announces their spawn in guild chat, vent wake-up, discord, unofficial batphone, whatever, as long as they don't send out an "official" batphone.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

organized guild activity...

Seeing that a group of guild members are communicating regardless of how, and working together as a guild, that indicates an organized guild activity.

FFS this is a stupid argument with a dude that loves to banter using semantics to try to bend the truth to fit his agenda.

[Mead]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Seeing that a group of guild members are communicating regardless of how, and working together as a guild, that indicates an organized guild activity.

FFS this is a stupid argument with a dude that loves to banter using semantics to try to bend the truth to fit his agenda.

You pretty much hit it on the head.

[Maner]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I feel like if we take the words "batphoned" and "DKP" from your definition of "organized" guild activity because not all guilds use those, then suddenly it does become organized guild activity to agree in advance to camp your "alts" out at golems and then log-in said "alts" when your "tracker" announces their spawn in guild chat, vent wake-up, discord, unofficial batphone, whatever, as long as they don't send out an "official" batphone.

There is only one batohone used in aftermath. Optional raids are batphoned as optional raids however there were no batphones for fear golems...

Aftermath wanted the golems to be considered raid targets but the gms ruled otherwise. But now you're upset that a group from AM is following the example set forth by others?

[Mead]

Anyone surprised Maner thinks he's slick? But just ends up getting dunked on. AM probably needs a new RnF PR rep.

[Maner]

Originally Posted by Mead [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Anyone surprised Maner thinks he's slick? But just ends up getting dunked on. AM probably needs a new RnF PR rep.

I don't speak for a guild again, generalizing a guild over one member... is this the same way you view other races too?