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[soup]

Originally Posted by Rilen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yay.

I don't care to read this shit storm so I'm just going to post details.

I camped AC from 5:20ish am, to whenever I died somewhere around 1:30am maybe?

Died to a white SG that was the 30 minute PH for AC. I shouldn't have died but after over 15 hours at the camp I was getting a bit lazy. The druid that nearly saved me said that I killed it, so my DoT must've magically taken him down.

After this I paid said Druid 150pp to pick me up from LFay, and was back in less than 10 minutes to find the VD members rolled into my camp and try to inform me that they had killed the PH's so it's their camp now. Whatever, I tried to ask them to be nice, be decent, and got rules cited on me.

Quite frankly, I didn't expect anything different, I don't expect anyone to care. In fact, I don't really care.

Douchebags will continue to be douchebags. It should come as no surprise that a congregation of them forms in a mass invite guild.

Hey, if you go to camp it again, feel free to message me if I'm on (Hanz, Yarghh, or Youre) and I'll park my necro there with ya. Can't promise my complete undivided attention, but I can offer some help as well as maintaining the camp if something goes wrong.

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

Originally Posted by Messianic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I fail to see how one instance of pseudo-camp stealing is worth "taking it all back."

If all it takes is one bad event to ruin a good community, no good communities exist at all.

Character is made by many acts, it can be ruined by a single one.

Good points in this thread. From all sides.

Charity is not a bone shared with the dog, charity is the bone shared with the dog when you are just as hungry as the dog.

Have fun in game guys, loot comes, and loot goes. If you play this game long enough,you realize this. One day your bronze is no longer 'uber'. Then your crafted. Then your oracle robe, planar armor, sky loot...loot comes and loot goes. When you look back on this game, it will be of experiences. Shared experiences being the best. Not of loot, or plat. What seems so important one moment isn't really, the things that are the most enjoyable aren't tangible. Just enjoy the game. And help others to enjoy it.

[Nocte]

Originally Posted by Rilen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I camped AC
I died
[I] was back in less than 10 minutes
[someone else] rolled into [the] camp
Quite frankly, I didn't expect anything different.

Enough said. You lost the camp. Someone else came to the camp while you were gone. It's a highly sought-after camp. It shouldn't have come as a surprise to anyone that this happened to.

It really is that cut and dry, whether you (or anyone else *cough* OP *cough*) like(s) it or not. It has nothing to do with people "being nice," and everything to do with a collection of people following a set of rules that are in place to deal with these types of situations. For all intensive purposes, you can't even know that the folks at your camp spot even knew you had just died or if you had just killed an AC - they just saw an empty AC camp.

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

Intents and purposes. /wink

[karsten]

for all intensive purposes this thread should have ended before it started

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Originally Posted by karsten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

for all intensive purposes this thread should have ended before it started

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minus whale just close it now, things are getting a little too in tents

[maegi]

beats a dead horse some more

[Bubbles]

Wait, someone who died in a camp, who was bound on a seperate *continent* and lost said camp, is now officially calling my guild every name in the book?

/facepalm.

I mean, i've garnered enough goodwill over the last year and a half to weather just about any $#!tstorm, but this is just getting more blatently trollish as the facts continue to come out.

Gratz on everyone blowing through 3 pages arguing semantics and utopian dream scenarios.

You don't want to camp the AC?

1. ) Bind on the same continent.

2. ) Try not to die.

You want to believe Vesica Dei is some angry milita zerg force of camp stealers and griefers? More power to you. You'd honestly have to come to these message boards, slam an eightball, and pound out about 4 hours worth of 'search' magic to even begin to assemble a paper trail to support that conclusion.

Godspeed.

[senna]

Originally Posted by Bubbles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wait, someone who died in a camp, who was bound on a seperate *continent* and lost said camp, is now officially calling my guild every name in the book?

/facepalm.

I mean, i've garnered enough goodwill over the last year and a half to weather just about any $#!tstorm, but this is just getting more blatently trollish as the facts continue to come out.

Gratz on everyone blowing through 3 pages arguing semantics and utopian dream scenarios.

You don't want to camp the AC?

1. ) Bind on the same continent.

2. ) Try not to die.

You want to believe Vesica Dei is some angry milita zerg force of camp stealers and griefers? More power to you. You'd honestly have to come to these message boards, slam an eightball, and pound out about 4 hours worth of 'search' magic to even begin to assemble a paper trail to support that conclusion.

Godspeed.

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[soup]

Originally Posted by Bubbles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wait, someone who died in a camp, who was bound on a seperate *continent* and lost said camp, is now officially calling my guild every name in the book?

/facepalm.

I mean, i've garnered enough goodwill over the last year and a half to weather just about any $#!tstorm, but this is just getting more blatently trollish as the facts continue to come out.

Gratz on everyone blowing through 3 pages arguing semantics and utopian dream scenarios.

You don't want to camp the AC?

1. ) Bind on the same continent.

2. ) Try not to die.

You want to believe Vesica Dei is some angry milita zerg force of camp stealers and griefers? More power to you. You'd honestly have to come to these message boards, slam an eightball, and pound out about 4 hours worth of 'search' magic to even begin to assemble a paper trail to support that conclusion.

Godspeed.

Different mindsets I guess.

If I come up to an open camp and then 10 minutes later find out it's open because someone had been camping it for numerous hours and then died to whatever bullshit and had forgot to bind nearby, my first thought isn't "Sweet, that means it's my camp now!", it would be more along the lines of "Oh shit that's pretty rough. Do you want the camp back / need help getting here / want me to hold it til you get here? etc."

Although despite what I've said earlier in the thread, doing something like that doesn't necessarily mean you are in fact a douche bag, but it is a somewhat douche bag thing to do. Like someone earlier pointed out, you can help a thousand people, but be a douche bag to just one person and then forever be remembered as a douche bag.