Do you have taste in music?

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Aarone [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEniyvOtETc

FLASHBAAAACKS!! AAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!

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Originally Posted by isitatomic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Less Modest Mouse, more Daniel Johnston.

Daniel Johnston ftw

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[isitatomic]

This is delayed a bit. I've been... uhh... preoccupied with something else.

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The interwebz is doing a good job at forcing change to the model. More amateurs are now able to get their music out. They've always been able to, but the record corps have been forcing them out of the game for some decades now. Something had to give, eh?

I really like this idea, but people I talk to and things that I've read generally signal the exact opposite. Means that have cropped up throughout the supernetz for exposing your musical talents (or lack thereof) to the world are, as I understand it, to be avoided like the plague. Putting your ballads up on Myspace Music or some such is an awesome way to be totally ignored. The incentive to hit the road and craft a unique performance has gone up quite a bit. *shrug*

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Disagree. See: patrons of the arts. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patronage

Wha? If you're saying pop music is very old, I'd say you're making a no-no that my Asian Civilization prof would go nuts over: Projecting into history. Pop music didn't exist until something was actually called "Pop music". Patronage is something more akin the National Endowment for the Arts, which in fact is probably more likely to fund Alvin Lucien making music using a long wire suspended inside of a cathedral than it is to fund John Mayer's new hit single.

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bullshit. Go look at any reliable source of demographics for who consumes the most albums. Go look at what bands sell the most records across the world. It's all teeny bop bullshit dude. I have some education in this subject, and I can definitely assure you that even some of the "harder" bands out there cater their music to a teeny-bop audience.

Going to have to counter-bullshit this bullshit. Maybe you looked at the Billboard ratings and noticed that within the last decade the groups for tweens have started to claim the charts. That's not the entire picture, though:

consumers over 45 accounted for 25% of music sales last year, more than twice the share of any other age group, and up from 15% a decade ago.

three-quarters of digital music buyers are age 25 and older

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

..but people in China know who NSync is, and I guarantee you that for every underground band coming out with dope shit on their own, there are a dozen chinese boy bands who are trying to use the same model to get ahead in life.

The last part is certainly true, but nobody really knows who NSync is. Imported media comes in through a miniscule heavily regulated tube. Backstreet Boys from the US and Westlife from Europe. There are guys in their twenties who have totally legit (fully heterosexual) love for both of those groups, I shit you not.

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Disagree. See: patron of the arts. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patronage

I see what you mean this time, but being a patron just meant you were a sort of paid political mouthpiece for a specific elite audience, it didn't mean that everyone else played for free (though some surely did). It's similar but different in at least one major aspect: patron artists sold out for an elite audience, while pop artists sell out for the masses. Flip flop!

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Disagree. Concert halls have always been filled with a large amount of revellers out to show off their style/cash/women, and to drink and have a good time. Likewise, pubs have always been full of dancers/revelers/drinkers who don't really give a shit about the skill of the musicians playing for a couple coppers. There have always been true appreciators of skill, but these have ALWAYS been far outweighed by people who enjoy music for the atmosphere and a chance at grabbing some ass.

I like this paragraph the most, maybe I just wasn't concise enough. Limiting folks to two groups sounds like one of them "false dichotomies", and however many groups you can think up I don't believe they are mutually exclusive, even if it appears so today more than ever.

*whew*

And without further ado: Techniques in Advanced Dance with Tom & Whoever This Kid Is

[Prospect]

In The Midst of Lions - Herod's Demise
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asttW...eature=related

[isitatomic]

Originally Posted by Prospect [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In The Midst of Lions - Herod's Demise
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asttW...eature=related

"In the Midst of Lions play vicious deathcore in the service of a higher power."

This sounds like the intro to an Onion article.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by isitatomic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is delayed a bit. I've been... uhh... preoccupied with something else.

elloellin!

Originally Posted by isitatomic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I really like this idea, but people I talk to and things that I've read generally signal the exact opposite. Means that have cropped up throughout the supernetz for exposing your musical talents (or lack thereof) to the world are, as I understand it, to be avoided like the plague. Putting your ballads up on Myspace Music or some such is an awesome way to be totally ignored. The incentive to hit the road and craft a unique performance has gone up quite a bit. *shrug*

See: Die Antwoord

Originally Posted by isitatomic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wha? If you're saying pop music is very old, I'd say you're making a no-no that my Asian Civilization prof would go nuts over: Projecting into history. Pop music didn't exist until something was actually called "Pop music". Patronage is something more akin the National Endowment for the Arts, which in fact is probably more likely to fund Alvin Lucien making music using a long wire suspended inside of a cathedral than it is to fund John Mayer's new hit single.

Eh, I see what you mean, but I think you're sidestepping my point, which was that music was tailored for the audience, rather than being purely from the soul.

Originally Posted by isitatomic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Going to have to counter-bullshit this bullshit. Maybe you looked at the Billboard ratings and noticed that within the last decade the groups for tweens have started to claim the charts. That's not the entire picture, though:
consumers over 45 accounted for 25% of music sales last year, more than twice the share of any other age group, and up from 15% a decade ago.
three-quarters of digital music buyers are age 25 and older

Yeah.. Did you know that seventy three percent of all statistics are made up on the spot 93% of the time?
This trend started really with the Beatles, and really hasn't stopped since. All you have to do is examine the path of musical evolution to see the truth in that, but if you google REEEEEEAAAALLY hard, you can find out I'm on target that way too.

Originally Posted by isitatomic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The last part is certainly true, but nobody really knows who NSync is.

Thou shalt not argue semantics with me, sir! I see you!

Originally Posted by isitatomic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Imported media comes in through a miniscule heavily regulated tube. Backstreet Boys from the US and Westlife from Europe. There are guys in their twenties who have totally legit (fully heterosexual) love for both of those groups, I shit you not.

Those men are hiding something about themselves.

Originally Posted by isitatomic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I see what you mean this time, but being a patron just meant you were a sort of paid political mouthpiece for a specific elite audience, it didn't mean that everyone else played for free (though some surely did). It's similar but different in at least one major aspect: patron artists sold out for an elite audience, while pop artists sell out for the masses. Flip flop!

Difference noted. They do share a common thread, however.

Originally Posted by isitatomic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I like this paragraph the most, maybe I just wasn't concise enough. Limiting folks to two groups sounds like one of them "false dichotomies", and however many groups you can think up I don't believe they are mutually exclusive, even if it appears so today more than ever.

Eh, it's not an either or, it was 2 examples. ..and I've studied enough about "classical" and "folk" (not woody guthrie, but like irish folk music or gypsy music), to know that there is a HUGE difference in where they were coming from in both making and performing music, and the differences in the audiences. You sidestep a lot you slippery snake!

*whew*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVQukw8DkaY

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by isitatomic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"In the Midst of Lions play vicious deathcore in the service of a higher power."

This sounds like the intro to an Onion article.

Raw Full!!

[Prospect]

Originally Posted by isitatomic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"In the Midst of Lions play vicious deathcore in the service of a higher power."

This sounds like the intro to an Onion article.

Well, they are a Christian band so it makes sense.

[Grento]

Blotted Science is a good one for prog rock fans. All instrumental also.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntYnf...eature=related

(for those that are impatient, intro ends about 1 min into it)

[xnolanx]

This thread has gone on so long that I'm lost to the mixture of conversation it carries.