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Old 03-02-2020, 08:05 PM
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Good vs evil i will roll good with the rest of my gnome homies and melt stupid dark elfs like dirty nirgon and the dark men of odus
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Old 03-02-2020, 10:56 PM
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Teams is crap and nobody who like pvp wants teams. Anyhow it’s 2020 so not playing a 20 year old game isn’t that big of a deal anymore.
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Old 03-03-2020, 12:01 AM
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Good vs evil i will roll good with the rest of my gnome homies and melt stupid dark elfs like dirty nirgon and the dark men of odus
Green is great

Classic is the way
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Old 03-03-2020, 02:30 AM
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Green isnt classic tho.

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Old 03-03-2020, 03:24 AM
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Teams is crap and nobody who like pvp wants teams. Anyhow it’s 2020 so not playing a 20 year old game isn’t that big of a deal anymore.
Teams is probably the only sustainable PVP server type. The most hardcore people like the idea of FFA, right there with you, but I rather play on a dynamic, decently populated box where curious bluebies and casual dads have a built-in support network and parallel top end guilds can develop and duke it out.

Rogean what is your current idea(s) on non Good/Evil alignment based teams?
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Old 03-03-2020, 08:46 AM
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Imo should be elves vs everyone else.
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Old 03-03-2020, 11:48 AM
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Green isnt classic tho.

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None of these servers are truly classic. One of the custom changes I find particularly amusing & annoying, depending on what situation you are in... is Line of Sight for spell casting. Talk about kicking casters right in the nuts. Casters never had line of sight checks.

The whole 'greedy' merchant custom change is another one I laugh about... and some people still don't even realize it's a thing. This is obvious because people still sell shit to these merchants, when they could walk 5 steps to another merchant and sell for double the price.

They are all custom boxes, but sadly, they are the closest thing we will get to classic. But I digress...

We need TEAMS. If left to a FFA ruleset...A lot of you guys like to talk tough, but most of you wind up taking the path of least resistance and joining that one big zerg guild to get your easy pixels. Very few of you choose team underdog, or 'guild B' underdog and take the fight to 'guild A' zergfest.

2 completely balanced teams, East vs. West style laid out by nilbog. Or 3 teams SZ / DAOC style is what this new server needs.
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Old 03-03-2020, 12:10 PM
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None of these servers are truly classic. One of the custom changes I find particularly amusing & annoying, depending on what situation you are in... is Line of Sight for spell casting. Talk about kicking casters right in the nuts. Casters never had line of sight checks.

The whole 'greedy' merchant custom change is another one I laugh about... and some people still don't even realize it's a thing. This is obvious because people still sell shit to these merchants, when they could walk 5 steps to another merchant and sell for double the price.

They are all custom boxes, but sadly, they are the closest thing we will get to classic. But I digress...

We need TEAMS. If left to a FFA ruleset...A lot of you guys like to talk tough, but most of you wind up taking the path of least resistance and joining that one big zerg guild to get your easy pixels. Very few of you choose team underdog, or 'guild B' underdog and take the fight to 'guild A' zergfest.

2 completely balanced teams, East vs. West style laid out by nilbog. Or 3 teams SZ / DAOC style is what this new server needs.
I pretty much agree, and there should be no item trades or buffing, healing, or grouping between teams 1 character per loginserver account maybe? IDK. There are plenty of ways to discourage crossteaming I saw the devs talking about it on streams and lots of posts about it here I don't have to re-iterate.

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One custom change that I think a lot about is disabling exp loss so people simply cant delevel high lvl twinked alts. Or *gasp* no pvp at all until lvl 40-50, and when kunark launches bump that up to 49-60. But my favorite pvp is lower lvl and in the planes between small guilds not massive zergs vs one or two xudes training. An alternative to people being twinked is to level scale stats on higher lvl items total item percentage so people with a fungi on a lvl 17 character only get like 1+hp regen instead of plus 20. That requires a lot of custom work tho. but can bet tailored to specifically OP items like epic weapons and fungi stuff

bluebies aren't good at pvp and to recruit them they need an environment they can pvp in with like, training wheels, and most of us are lazy even people who played on red99 for years. I am super lazy. I prefer to spam chat and forum posts rather than play most of the time, I am afk on the box.
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Old 03-03-2020, 12:19 PM
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I feel like a lot of bluebies make it to lvl 19 in unrest but log off when its 5 vs 1 guy with instant invis and fungi and their dmg is capped at 20 instead of 40+ hps per joust. They just give up and become overwelmed when one guy can kill their entire party EZ because they are just not that good. We need to help those folks out. (yes this is a very bluebie carebare way of thinking), but we need more players, not a harder box.

Ideally pvp should be lethal and dangerous and everyone should be able to die to everyone else with less emphasis on gear and more emphasis on strategy, groups, and situational awareness and fighting over camps.

maybe also make it so casters can only bind were melees can.
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Old 03-03-2020, 01:29 PM
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NO ONE has been talking about doing Good VS Evil teams

It was proposed full custom teams hard coded, not the same teams that were ever used on any live server. It seems like it would be fun to try. If it fails then all the toons can go back to Red.

I propose no legacy items to make the game about the game and not about poopsocking temporarily in game junk like bind clickies manabones and such.

Just a straight up server with straight up content. Sorry psychopaths.
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