This week cycle

[matticas]

Originally Posted by Dogma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think I'm a good guy. I just think Freedom are the bad guys.

And you guys can't seem to show otherwise.

Well, there's only one way to find out, right? Join Freedom, spend a few months seeing how we operate, and then see if your koolaid still tastes as good.

I personally think it would be hilarious to watch you try to figure out how to stay this brain-washed.

[Psyborg]

Originally Posted by Dreenk317 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There was a period where AG leadership was figuring out what happened. The AG leader messaged via discord was not actually in game at the time, but he was in the UN, so I guess kittens was passing all coms through him. AG was leaving ToV as this train happened, like 80%+ of raid force was already out of zone heading to zlandi. The person that trained had camped out in a non KoS area. He logged in and there were kos mobs in said area that were pathing back to wherever. He ran for exit, and ya, kittens was there, they got trained. Once AG leadership realized what had happened. They DID offer help with the recovery and or kill, the offer was denied. They also offered to have kittens join them in PoG after they had recovered. Offer was also denied. So, if thats not bothering to do anything to make amends, please, inform me of your definition of doing so.

It's fine. No matter how much of a reasonable explanation you offer the shitbirds from Riot would rather take an isolated incident or two to make it seem like FRAG are the bad guys. The reality is that Riot started out as heroes to this server in many ways but quickly devolved into the shit they were so very against from the beginning. I say this referring to the choices from their leadership. The members are generally cool as fuck.

[Akg49]

Waiting until they had enough time to recover themselves isn't exactly "bothering to do anything to make amends". You couldn't send even just one cleric to exit? Did no one in AG/F think this was a good idea? Howwww?

By that time Kittens effort to clear LTK roamers for a clear engage was scuffed, repops were happening, and they didn't have it in them to clear the whole thing again. This is where you guys should have stepped in. Those repops should have been dying as they popped. It wasn't until Riot decided to come around and help Kittens salvage the LTK kill that they decided it was worth staying. Riot left *their* PoG contest to do this.

(given Kittens loss of time at LTK, and loss of morale thanks to AG/F, you can see why they felt their later opportunities like Yeli were taken from them)

Do you not see why Kittens would not want to join you in your stained PoG raid? It's gross. You don't accept an offer to come over for dinner to someone's house when they've just spat in your face.

Odds are good GM's will see this as a "minor incedent" though, so don't worry too much about it. How you don't care yourselves, despite what any authority says, is really worrying. Like on a human level.

[Bones]

Originally Posted by Dreenk317 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There was a period where AG leadership was figuring out what happened. The AG leader messaged via discord was not actually in game at the time, but he was in the UN, so I guess kittens was passing all coms through him. AG was leaving ToV as this train happened, like 80%+ of raid force was already out of zone heading to zlandi. The person that trained had camped out in a non KoS area. He logged in and there were kos mobs in said area that were pathing back to wherever. He ran for exit, and ya, kittens was there, they got trained. Once AG leadership realized what had happened. They DID offer help with the recovery and or kill, the offer was denied. They also offered to have kittens join them in PoG after they had recovered. Offer was also denied. So, if thats not bothering to do anything to make amends, please, inform me of your definition of doing so.

based off the precedence of greed that corrupts the raid scene, My imagination tells me kittens probably wanted AG to concede zlandi too, of course, so kittens could get that for free as compensation for being trained and inconvenienced.. You know what? throw a yelinak in there too why not.

[Psyborg]

Originally Posted by Akg49 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do you not see why Kittens would not want to join you in your stained PoG raid? It's gross. You don't accept an offer to come over for dinner to someone's house when they've just spat in your face.

Stop playing third-party victim. Kittens are a tough crew and can handle their own issues. I'm now going to start counting how many times I've been rezzed and recovered by Riot after getting trained by them in their short, checkered history. This attempt to look like good guys with this transparent, sensationalized monkey banter is astounding.

[xdrcfrx]

Originally Posted by Bones [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

based off the precedence of greed that corrupts the raid scene, My imagination tells me kittens probably wanted AG to concede zlandi too, of course, so kittens could get that for free as compensation for being trained and inconvenienced.. You know what? throw a yelinak in there too why not.

Actually most of kwsm recognized that the offer of conceding mobs that AG/F weren't going to kill anyways was essentially an empty gesture, and preferred punishment for the train as opposed to the concession of additional mobs.

Still waitin' on that Dagarn teamup. Any day now?

[Zoggren]

Originally Posted by xdrcfrx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Imagine honoring agreements.

Imagine there's no Dagarn
It's easy if you try
No AG SK to train us
And we only raid sky
Imagine all the people leveling for today
Imagine there's no ToV
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or train for
And no petitions too
Imagine all the people living life in discord, you
You may say I'm a tracker
But I'm not the only one
I hope some day you'll join us
And Norrath will be as one
Imagine no pixels
I wonder if you can
No need before greed or DKP
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people sharing all the loot, you
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope some day you'll join us
And the guilds will raid as one

Damn, I must be extremely bored.

[xdrcfrx]

Originally Posted by Zoggren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Imagine there's no Dagarn
It's easy if you try
No AG SK to train us
And we only raid sky
Imagine all the people leveling for today
Imagine there's no ToV
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or train for
And no petitions too
Imagine all the people living life in discord, you
You may say I'm a tracker
But I'm not the only one
I hope some day you'll join us
And Norrath will be as one
Imagine no pixels
I wonder if you can
No need before greed or DKP
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people sharing all the loot, you
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope some day you'll join us
And the guilds will raid as one

Damn, I must be extremely bored.

I even imagined it to the right tune.

[kaizersoze]

Originally Posted by Psyborg [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's fine. No matter how much of a reasonable explanation you offer the shitbirds from Riot would rather take an isolated incident or two to make it seem like FRAG are the bad guys. The reality is that Riot started out as heroes to this server in many ways but quickly devolved into the shit they were so very against from the beginning. I say this referring to the choices from their leadership. The members are generally cool as fuck.

I think it's ironic that you said this because one of the main reasons Riot even formed was to quiet down aftermath, who incessantly flamed everyone else on the server by posting their kill logs and that everyone else sucks, and now that Riot is taking a few punches (which yeah, brava to you folks) is doing literally the same thing as it tries to do what it did before. The only thing different about Aftermath is it's name. It's the same leadership, it's the same gloating over their kills, saying everyone else is bad, etc. I'm just curious when AG is going to stop letting you call their shots and take half their loot. During prime time they can field almost as many as Riot, all they really need is for people to step up and take a chance.

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by kaizersoze [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think it's ironic that you said this because one of the main reasons Riot even formed was to quiet down aftermath, who incessantly flamed everyone else on the server by posting their kill logs and that everyone else sucks, and now that Riot is taking a few punches (which yeah, brava to you folks) is doing literally the same thing as it tries to do what it did before. The only thing different about Aftermath is it's name. It's the same leadership, it's the same gloating over their kills, saying everyone else is bad, etc. I'm just curious when AG is going to stop letting you call their shots and take half their loot. During prime time they can field almost as many as Riot, all they really need is for people to step up and take a chance.

Sorry you don't got warder loot