The Story of a P99 Blue Scumbag

[starkind]

Originally Posted by starkind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

so it looks like if i do 51% of the dmg to a mob and a npc guard kills it i get the exp! (on live)

(and loot)

[RecondoJoe]

Originally Posted by starkind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

so it looks like if i do 51% of the dmg to a mob and a npc guard kills it i get the exp! (on live)

It solves so much drama and incentivizes players to group together... solo farming ghoul lord is cool and all until the other players in the zone decide they want to take it. Maybe you should have invited that wizard when you had the chance 😈

Like who really thinks the PNP is good? Let’s create a system that gives AFK players entire camps indefinitely, and since DPS doesn’t matter, there will never be any incentive to invite other players.

[RecondoJoe]

Originally Posted by RecondoJoe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It solves so much drama and incentivizes players to group together... solo farming ghoul lord is cool and all until the other players in the zone decide they want to take it. Maybe you should have invited that wizard when you had the chance 😈

Like who really thinks the PNP is good? Let’s create a system that gives AFK players entire camps indefinitely, and since DPS doesn’t matter, there will never be any incentive to invite other players.

Truly classic

[starkind]

ya classic is DPS wins. That's tru classic and brads vision.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by starkind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ya classic is DPS wins. That's tru classic and brads vision.

Er no. Once there was a framework of rules kill stealing was not allowed. Early on in classic there were no rules like this because no one had any idea what jerks people could become online. Once we realized it was a problem you had rules put in place prohibiting kill stealing. There may have been certain mobs that were a DPS race but your average mob was not supposed to be a DPS race.

Of course, it was very hard to catch kill stealing in action unless you happened to catch the complaint quickly and/or the griefer was doing it for a more extended period of time. I banned someone permanently for a third infraction of grieving because they were kill stealing someone for like half an hour straight.

[starkind]

i say let it be dps unless u can have a GM watching a bot u can't be sure, so let the players DPS

[RecondoJoe]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Er no. Once there was a framework of rules kill stealing was not allowed.

This is fake news, and the same rules that were in place 20 years ago are still in place today.

Could you get in trouble for following a player around and intentionally KS'ing them for hours? Yes. If you petitioned because a player took a mob from 'your' camp, the GMs would warn you to stop wasting their time before banning you if you filled out another petition.

If you reported someone for stealing your one mob (even if that mob happened to have an FBSS) the GMs again would tell you to go fuck off. The only time a GM would ever step in is again, if a player followed you around and repeatedly stole your mobs to grief you.

The rules have not changed.

You live in a fantasy world.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by RecondoJoe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is fake news, and the same rules that were in place 20 years ago are still in place today.

Could you get in trouble for following a player around and intentionally KS'ing them for hours? Yes. If you petitioned because a player took a mob from 'your' camp, the GMs would warn you to stop wasting their time before banning you if you filled out another petition.

If you reported someone for stealing your one mob (even if that mob happened to have an FBSS) the GMs again would tell you to go fuck off. The only time a GM would ever step in is again, if a player followed you around and repeatedly stole your mobs to grief you.

The rules have not changed.

You live in a fantasy world.

You are right, "The rules have not changed." ... and we know exactly what they were like back in classic, because we have the Kunark era GM Guide: https://wiki.project1999.com/Kunark_...ice_Guidelines [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

8.3 Kill Stealing
When a kill stealing scenario involves a single spawn, or only a few specific spawns, the procedures in section 8.2.3 (Contested Spawn Complaints) should be followed. However, should kill stealing as defined in section 8.2.1.1 be witnessed during the execution of that procedure, the CS Representative should issue a warning for disruption.

8.2.3 Contested Spawn Complaints
When a complaint is received indicating that a spawn or kill is contested, a disruption investigation should first be initiated according to the procedures of section 8.2.2 to determine if harassment or Zone/Area disruption is occurring. After following those procedures and issuing warnings as necessary, instruct the parties involved in the contested spawn situation to work out a compromise. Then leave the scene.

If another complaint is received involving the same spawn site, another disruption investigation should be initiated. After following those procedures and issuing warnings as necessary, if any of the parties involved were involved in the initial situation, establish a compromise for the parties to which the parties are required to abide. The compromise should be as described in section 8.2.3.1. Any party refusing to abide by the compromise established by the CS Representative should be issued a warning for disruption.

On PvP servers, where players can reach a solution to the contested spawn situation, the CS Representative does not need to require the players to share the spawn.

8.2.3.1
The compromise will require all parties to take turns killing the spawn(s). All parties involved in the contested spawn should be instructed to use /random 0 100 to choose a number. The CS Representative then uses /random 0 100. The individual with the closest number to the CS Representative’s number will be next in the rotation. The CS Representative then bases the rest of the rotation order on how close the other parties’ numbers were to theirs. The compromise established by a CS Representative must be objective and not require the CS Representative to choose one customer over another based on subjective criteria. The CS Representative is the arbiter in any disputes in establishing the compromise.

[starkind]

ya but that ws all interprative and the way theya re intepreted here is duumb lol

[starkind]

8.2.3.1
The compromise will require all parties to take turns killing the spawn(s).

when does this happen, never lol