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Old 05-23-2021, 06:51 PM
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You should go back to spamming braindead memes, it's more effective than this drivel.
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Old 05-23-2021, 07:17 PM
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True story, I've done the same job for more than a decade, ive seen and heard a lot of shit
Good post. It's probably too level for the folks who're here because they want to blow off steam via hyperbole and mudslinging. Complicated problems don't usually have quick or easy solutions.

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Old 05-23-2021, 04:52 PM
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Lack of integrity is a funny charge when you excuse the Shaver killing and condemn the Floyd killing.

Oh really?
Because to me, they're vastly different, like a world of differences away.
What is similar is the excuses done by racists to somehow pretend we don't give a fuck about Shaver: we care. It's the same overzealous police killing people.
Remember, we want to defund the police?

Lacking integrity would be to defend the police, and then say but it also happens to white people, like this here case.

Lack of integrity would also be to try and equate those two different scenarios.



Like, a republican when you tell him that an AR15 is an assault weapon: complete meltdown. AR DOES NOT MEAN ASSAULT RIFLE, YOU IDIOT. Literally use academic terms. Is very specific about how this weapon is VASTLY different than this one because one has 16 ammunition in the magazine and the other, 18.

Republicans, discussing police brutality: these white people also got shot by the police it's the same. all lives matters. If you don't want to get shot, do what the police says.
Shaver and Floyd, same same!

Notice the subtle differences?
Black Live Matter is a lot about police accountability but you wouldn't know about it.
You're not listening to their plight.

Just, you know, white people plight. They voted for 45 for a reason, listen!
No integrity.


Like earlier when I just asked if we could stop making the forums worse by adding those 326392643247624 images posts and he just doubled down until he realized that ti could quickly get out of hand. We had to reason with him that his shit, the way he wanted them, made no sense for the good of the community.
We can argue, call each others idiot but when we start polluting posts with large images, it can get very abd very quickly.
We can have some consensus, you know.
In the end, he showed us he have some integrity.
And we have better discussions because of it.

We all have the right to believe what we believe but it is very helpful when we are honest about it and believe in things that are real.
I can believe user X and user Y are Z but unless it's grounded in reality, it doesn't matter what I think.
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Old 05-23-2021, 05:04 PM
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Oh really?
Because to me, they're vastly different, like a world of differences away.
What is similar is the excuses done by racists to somehow pretend we don't give a fuck about Shaver: we care. It's the same overzealous police killing people.
Remember, we want to defund the police?

Lacking integrity would be to defend the police, and then say but it also happens to white people, like this here case.

Lack of integrity would also be to try and equate those two different scenarios.



Like, a republican when you tell him that an AR15 is an assault weapon: complete meltdown. AR DOES NOT MEAN ASSAULT RIFLE, YOU IDIOT. Literally use academic terms. Is very specific about how this weapon is VASTLY different than this one because one has 16 ammunition in the magazine and the other, 18.

Republicans, discussing police brutality: these white people also got shot by the police it's the same. all lives matters. If you don't want to get shot, do what the police says.
Shaver and Floyd, same same!

Notice the subtle differences?
Black Live Matter is a lot about police accountability but you wouldn't know about it.
You're not listening to their plight.

Just, you know, white people plight. They voted for 45 for a reason, listen!
No integrity.


Like earlier when I just asked if we could stop making the forums worse by adding those 326392643247624 images posts and he just doubled down until he realized that ti could quickly get out of hand. We had to reason with him that his shit, the way he wanted them, made no sense for the good of the community.
We can argue, call each others idiot but when we start polluting posts with large images, it can get very abd very quickly.
We can have some consensus, you know.
In the end, he showed us he have some integrity.
And we have better discussions because of it.

We all have the right to believe what we believe but it is very helpful when we are honest about it and believe in things that are real.
I can believe user X and user Y are Z but unless it's grounded in reality, it doesn't matter what I think.
I said no one gives a fuck about Shaver because I was trying to emphasize that the media coverage of his incident was INCREDIBLY disproportionate to that of Floyd, which means a lot of people don't even know about Shaver. And the fact you didn't even remember his name until I literally fed it to you, reinforces this idea. Feel free to deny that too, I'm sure you had his picture and timeline on your car's bumper. Or would have, if you owned a car?

And defunding the police is a stupid idea. But I hope it happens all around you, so your dreams of a policeless utopia can come true
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Old 05-23-2021, 05:16 PM
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I said no one gives a fuck about Shaver because I was trying to emphasize that the media coverage of his incident was INCREDIBLY disproportionate to that of Floyd, which means a lot of people don't even know about Shaver. And the fact you didn't even remember his name until I literally fed it to you, reinforces this idea. Feel free to deny that too, I'm sure you had his picture and timeline on your car's bumper. Or would have, if you owned a car?

And defunding the police is a stupid idea. But I hope it happens all around you, so your dreams of a policeless utopia can come true
Maybe you should just go back to spamming racist memes because this isn't working at all.
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Old 05-23-2021, 05:20 PM
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Maybe you should just go back to spamming racist memes because this isn't working at all.
Shucks, and here I had such high hopes he was going to stop being a democrat

And don't tempt me. I can go back to memes whenever u want
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Old 05-23-2021, 05:21 PM
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I said no one gives a fuck about Shaver because I was trying to emphasize that the media coverage of his incident was INCREDIBLY disproportionate to that of Floyd, which means a lot of people don't even know about Shaver. And the fact you didn't even remember his name until I literally fed it to you, reinforces this idea. Feel free to deny that too, I'm sure you had his picture and timeline on your car's bumper. Or would have, if you owned a car?

And defunding the police is a stupid idea. But I hope it happens all around you, so your dreams of a policeless utopia can come true
See the condescendence.
Bro, I own a restaurant and a john cooper work mini cooper sport.
I mentioned this on the car manufacturer post.
Why do you focus on what I do with my free time, or my time in general, whether or not I work or own a car or what I do with my bumper and if I want stickers there like, don't you love freedom or would you prefer if we shipped you to North Korea with other fascists?
What if I genuinely was poor and did not own a car, would I be dismissed because of that? What is your fucking problem?
I'm probably a lot richer than you probably ever will be, thanks to capitalism and my dad who really believed in it and do I look like I want to make you feel like less of a decent human being because you might be financially not as well off? Or as lucky as me to have a cool job that pays well? Like grow up, if there is a job to be done then someone needs to do it. No stupid work, no useless work. We are needed, whether a pawn or a king.

There is a shit ton of news you never read, do I seem to care?
Again, I'm always upset when the police kills people and so should you.
But, the thing is, I have the feeling you do not give a shit about Shaver AND you don't give a shit about Floyd, either.
You just don't get it.

"Let me just sit on your wife's neck while she cries about having problem breathing and I will not move. Do something, I will use my badge and shoot you like an animal. Your wife is going to die, now watch." seems to be the modus operandi and that is fucked up.

Second, defuding te police is not a policeless utopia.
It's a topic that has captured the national imagination and you.... haven't read a tiny amount about it? This sounds like the people trashing communism and when they talk about it, you can tell they don't really know what they are talking about and the manifest is like, 27 pages long and if you are going to hate entire cultures because of it, might as well read 27 pages but no.

Defunding the police is something the police have tried to do for a while.
wait what?

Do you seriously think the police want to be the one having to deal with mental illness problems? This is not their job. They are not qualified. They know this.

Defunding the police means instead of allocating all the money to the police, maybe allocate money toward people who can do a better job than the police at jobs the police sucks at.

Like dealing with autistic people, dealing with mental illness, homelessness, prostitution, etc.

There would still be cops what the fuck.

But something you never thought about.
If you protect private property.

Think about it.
You thus protect those who have, against those who don't.
In a very evident way.

So anyway, go read about defunding the police because your lack of knowledge on the topic, a year in, show us that you much prefer ignorance to knowledge and in the era of internet, this is a willfully made choice.

You might still be against defunding the police after reading about it but since it absolutely doe snot mean what you think it doesn't, maybe try educating yourself about it.

Like do you remember being a kid and saying that girls were gross.
Luckily, you tried one and you changed your mind.
Do the same or at least, try.
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Old 05-23-2021, 05:25 PM
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But, the thing is, I have the feeling you do not give a shit about Shaver AND you don't give a shit about Floyd, either
Quite a stretch. There are 50+ million police interactions occurring every year. There are a handful of unjustified killings every year. We both agree that we want to get that number down to zero. What we disagree on, is how serious of a threat to the public this issue is

And no, I want you to be able to re-allocate as much money from the police towards social services in you area as your heart desires. It can be any amount, and it can go towards any other purpose. Just keep it in your area. That's what I want. And you aren't going to change my mind on what I want, so let's agree to disagree
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Old 05-23-2021, 05:30 PM
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Quite a stretch. There are 50+ million police interactions occurring every year. There are a handful of unjustified killings every year. We both agree that we want to get that number down to zero. What we disagree on, is how serious of a threat to the public this issue is

And no, I want you to be able to re-allocate as much money from the police towards social services in you area as your heart desires. It can be any amount, and it can go towards any other purpose. Just keep it in your area. That's what I want. And you aren't going to change my mind on what I want, so let's agree to disagree
That sure is a lot of sentences to say you don't think police brutality is an issue whatsoever.
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Old 05-23-2021, 05:35 PM
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Quite a stretch. There are 50+ million police interactions occurring every year. There are a handful of unjustified killings every year. We both agree that we want to get that number down to zero. What we disagree on, is how serious of a threat to the public this issue is

And no, I want you to be able to re-allocate as much money from the police towards social services in you area as your heart desires. It can be any amount, and it can go towards any other purpose. Just keep it in your area. That's what I want. And you aren't going to change my mind on what I want, so let's agree to disagree



Police body cam footage shows officers shooting 13-year-old Utah boy with autism

So, we both want that number to zero or... just me?
Because sending police officers in situations where they are not qualified and trained is what a sensible citizen like you want.
it is not dangerous for the cops, nor for the public. (amirite?)


There are literally millions of people leaving and entering the country every year, a handful do so illegally, What we disagree on, is how serious of a threat to the public this issue is
.

There have been 7,194 days since 9/11. No other buildings were destroyed. (In America) Trillion dollars war of (or on?) terror. just now leaving Afghanistan and What we disagree on, is how serious of a threat to the public this issue is.


There is a lot of available books and toys.
Lately, there have been a fixation on mr. potato head and dr. seuss books and What we disagree on, is how serious of a threat to the public this issue is.

I'm sorry you make it easy.
See when they told you school was useless, they lied.
You very obviously could use a degree, especially a high school degree.



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I think the issues come from a number of reasons including:

People that should not be police officers are being hired as police officers. This is an issue with whoever is doing the hiring


Some cops may have some secret deep-seeded racism. Once again, if it is not spotted, then this is an issue with the hiring process, or monitoring of police practices
Could the issue be... *GASP* that since they send police to place where police aren't needed, they have to hire more police than needed and use these shitty practices to save time because how can you keep track of such a large force?
Why send a police officer to a house where the problem is a troubled person with autism? Wouldn't a social worker do a better job since, you know, they are trained for that and it is literally their job? Why do you insist on sending armed people to solve all the conflict?

We are back to the you pinning too many images on posts and not seeing the problem.
Back to you threatening to do it again.

We're building the world we fucking live in.
you want... more cops?
You like the idea of a police state?
I thought republicans were all about freedom, america, gun rights and doing what you want because freedom!

sure does look like you like the idea of policing OTHER people though.
And you don't even like cops that much since january 6 was a normal tourist attraction for you.
Just a regular day at the capitol.
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