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Old 04-19-2022, 04:31 PM
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No these are just hopeless aspirations that are difficult enough that they can provide an excuse to continue striving for something physical to fill a spiritual whole.

Humans are designed to live on god power, and anything less leaves you unsatisfied. It's like how someone that never drinks water (actual water) finds it kinda gross at first, and you cultivate an addiction for actual health and vitality, the same goes with cultivating an appreciation and a need to actually live in Love / in pursuit of the good of others, which totally heals you an supercedes your need to bolster up your own well being all the time.

So it's just a meta distraction that works for a while.
People who hate on Elon are usually just jealous. Elon is pushing the rock forward for our species and people love to sit back on their ass and throw stones. Elon isn't motivated by wealth creation. Take time to listen to him once and a while. He's been obsessed with interplanetary travel since a very young age. He is insanely ambitious, very intelligent and is a man of action.

Branson is your billionaire of choice? Yikes.
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Old 04-19-2022, 04:36 PM
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The only argument i can see against folks like jobs or elon is that you think we should all wear long dresses and worship an eyeball. Which I am NOT against.
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Old 04-19-2022, 04:47 PM
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People who hate on Elon are usually just jealous. Elon is pushing the rock forward for our species and people love to sit back on their ass and throw stones. Elon isn't motivated by wealth creation. Take time to listen to him once and a while. He's been obsessed with interplanetary travel since a very young age. He is insanely ambitious, very intelligent and is a man of action.

Branson is your billionaire of choice? Yikes.
I just feel like Branson's attitude is genuine, and he's not a tech company money guy and instead has solved serious real world business management problems like running railways and airlines better than the old guard he set out to compete againt. He didn't come up with get-rich quick schemes he just designed better companies and empowered smarted people to run them better than the competition. He really does rock.

I agree that Elon is one of few billionaires actually putting his face out there and following ambitions. Whenever I see "trillions" spent I am like OMG how did we spend trillions of dollars and do ZERO cool things with it at all. So I do appreciate that about Elon.

But the fact is that Space X is just a way to privatize public money using tech that the public paid to develop, and then we pretend like omg NASA is so dysfunctional we need ELON!

Again I think Steve Jobs is a very different guy than Elon musk, having built an actual company from the ground up and fostered a culture that allowed interesting innovative products to be generated. Nothing that Steve Jobs did was about scheming ways to make more money and be on trend with government mandates. The man got fired because he didn't give a fuck about raking in the big dough. I'm not even a huge Jobs fan but he was motivated first by excellent products he wanted to make and offer, which gave him bucks.

Elon doesn't operate this way to me. His stuff is inline with collecting government paychecks and aligning things in his favor to receive them. NTY.
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Old 04-19-2022, 04:53 PM
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nasa really is dysfuntional as fuck.

all spacex did was put research, development and production under one roof.

nasa, like the morons they are had like 15,000 companies building, working on, or otherwise contributing to the space shuttle program.

also, their claim that they "lost apollo telemetry" is the biggest piece of bullshit that I've heard in my life

what it actually means: "Apollo telemetry recorded things that we refuse to release to the public"

No, its not likely aliens, its probably just covering up some of the US's bad actions.
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Old 04-19-2022, 05:04 PM
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Killing and eating Musk won't solve your problems. Or anyone elses. There are more important individual steps to take. And once those steps are taken Musk or anyone like him will no longer be one of your boogeymens.
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Old 04-19-2022, 05:13 PM
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I think he is good at PR. Space X, Virgin Galactic, Blue Origin are all just competing for government contracts to privatize your money, using technology you paid to develop.

And if he appears as a hero, its because he may be the chosen hero of the Mega Corp era who will have us all vote to put an end to American democracy.

Which is de-facto ended because we just don't bother to do it. Too busy getting evicted from our rental homes.

Which is why the US Govt is happy to have megacorps buying all the single family homes, because when their middle class is fully cucked out and can be evicted from wherever they live at any moment and can lose their job (over 50% us jobs are government either federal state or local) for basically any legal infraction as matter of policy, we all have to STFU so why even have democracy?

Could be worse but the people we are trained to HOPE to make it BETTER have no interest in that. Thats why when republicans controlled both houses and the presidency, they did nothing, and when democrats controlled both houses and the presidency, they did nothing.

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Great post. Dude has been subsidized the whole way throughout his career, including $7500 in federal income tax credits on EVs we have on the books right now. We’re paying rich people to buy $80,000 Teslas

The man is a genius at PR and lobbying, that’s for sure. But he’s received more welfare than every poor person in America combined (hyperbole, but you get the point)

I don’t think he’d be worse for Twitter though. Iran’s government uses Twitter. They kill 1500 a year for political reasons by hanging them from cranes in public. They’re on Twitter but trump isn’t? Hypocritical and stupid.

Oh, and he’s giving his proprietary tech to China by building there. Not sure why he is adored
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Old 04-19-2022, 05:19 PM
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Great post. Dude has been subsidized the whole way throughout his career, including $7500 in federal income tax credits on EVs we have on the books right now. We’re paying rich people to buy $80,000 Teslas

The man is a genius at PR and lobbying, that’s for sure. But he’s received more welfare than every poor person in America combined (hyperbole, but you get the point)

I don’t think he’d be worse for Twitter though. Iran’s government uses Twitter. They kill 1500 a year for political reasons by hanging them from cranes in public. They’re on Twitter but trump isn’t? Hypocritical and stupid.

Oh, and he’s giving his proprietary tech to China by building there. Not sure why he is adored
Supposedly Hezbollah, Hamas, and the Taliban have had Twitter accounts I heard
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Old 04-19-2022, 05:26 PM
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because the only other guy you got is Romney.
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Old 04-19-2022, 05:28 PM
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I voted for Ross Perot my man. I knew this would turn out with no middle class jobs and everyone on drugs back in the 90s. Don’t blame me for the two party system or free trade with despots
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Old 04-19-2022, 05:29 PM
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