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Old 05-25-2022, 03:06 PM
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The killer was engaged by law enforcement outside the school before he went inside.
There's no arming teachers or guards that would have helped.
Arming teachers would start a whole nother vector of future drama.

They're gonna propose a gun bill and the GOP is gonna veto it. Nothing will change.
Gun fetishists are keep going to sacrifice children. Thoughts and prayers, though!
Haha what?? Good lord "sacrifice children", get a grip.

The guy who killed him was a border patrol agent. Had he been working as an armed security guard at the school instead, not a single kid might have been killed.

There are armed guards at all sorts of places and literally NEVER are their weapons used in these kind of attacks. There are armed guards at the grocery store when the money truck or whatever comes to refill the ATMs. And banks. Nobody just runs up and yoinks their gun, is that what you think the "new vector" would be if schools had armed guards?
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Old 05-25-2022, 03:08 PM
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The killer was engaged by law enforcement outside the school before he went inside.
There's no arming teachers or guards that would have helped.
Arming teachers would start a whole nother vector of future drama.

They're gonna propose a gun bill and the GOP is gonna veto it. Nothing will change.
Gun fetishists are keep going to sacrifice children. Thoughts and prayers, though!
I think this you vs them mentality is what excites extreme people into causing the violence that's causing this us vs them mentality.
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Old 05-25-2022, 03:12 PM
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The killer was engaged by law enforcement outside the school before he went inside.
There's no arming teachers or guards that would have helped.
Arming teachers would start a whole nother vector of future drama.

They're gonna propose a gun bill and the GOP is gonna veto it. Nothing will change.
Gun fetishists are keep going to sacrifice children. Thoughts and prayers, though!
They don't trust teachers to even teach kids anymore but they expect them to gun down students obviously intending suicide by cop.
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Old 05-25-2022, 03:15 PM
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They don't trust teachers to even teach kids anymore but they expect them to gun down students obviously intending suicide by cop.
If the guy who ended up stopping him (with a gun) had just simply already been at the school, to provide security, this may very well have been prevented.

Arming actual teachers is a completely different question than simply having one or two professional armed security guards, because ya know, kids are kind of important? We protect all sorts of things with armed guards, but for some reason not an elementary school? How does this logic go exactly?
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Old 05-25-2022, 03:24 PM
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If the guy who ended up stopping him (with a gun) had just simply already been at the school, to provide security, this may very well have been prevented.

Arming actual teachers is a completely different question than simply having one or two professional armed security guards, because ya know, kids are kind of important? We protect all sorts of things with armed guards, but for some reason not an elementary school? How does this logic go exactly?
Probably very expensive for the pensions, salary, insurance, and benefits.

Don't think it could be done federally either.
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Old 05-25-2022, 03:29 PM
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Probably very expensive for the pensions, salary, insurance, and benefits.

Don't think it could be done federally either.
Totally agree, actually implementing such a policy would be very costly. But you might say worth it?

Dems just have a completely irrational fear of scary looking guns. The gun he used is just a rifle, but it's black and made of metal so people think it's some kind of machinegun. If it just looked like wood instead I guarantee the hysteria would be 99% lessened.
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Old 05-25-2022, 03:49 PM
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If the guy who ended up stopping him (with a gun) had just simply already been at the school, to provide security, this may very well have been prevented.

Arming actual teachers is a completely different question than simply having one or two professional armed security guards, because ya know, kids are kind of important? We protect all sorts of things with armed guards, but for some reason not an elementary school? How does this logic go exactly?
"Protecting our elementary schools with armed guards" is a totally fucked up thing to say. What kind of third world shithole needs armed guards at elementary schools?

Right?

This fucking country is on it's way out. The Golden Age is over and it's time for the Great Decline.
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Old 05-25-2022, 03:52 PM
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"Protecting our elementary schools with armed guards" is a totally fucked up thing to say. What kind of third world shithole needs armed guards at elementary schools?

Right?

This fucking country is on it's way out. The Golden Age is over and it's time for the Great Decline.
Relax, there are armed guards at banks. I think kids are more important than money, personally. I don't think it's a fucked up thing to say at all.

Again arming actual teachers is a whole other can of worms, and I don't support that unless we are really specific about how exactly that would be implemented, safety/training wise.
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Old 05-25-2022, 03:56 PM
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"Protecting our elementary schools with armed guards" is a totally fucked up thing to say. What kind of third world shithole needs armed guards at elementary schools?
I think we could swing it if we brought back conscription like Bootyjudge wanted. 🤔
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Old 05-25-2022, 04:15 PM
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"Protecting our elementary schools with armed guards" is a totally fucked up thing to say. What kind of third world shithole needs armed guards at elementary schools?

Right?

This fucking country is on it's way out. The Golden Age is over and it's time for the Great Decline.
There were armed cops at the school but they ran away
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