student loans are a hit!

[Elizondo]

Originally Posted by Origen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This will totally stop me from calling racists racists

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[Origen]

It's just the "starve the beast" strategy.

Try solving the poverty itself, even a Republican who does so gets called a socialist. That's why the John Birch people called Eisenhower a commie

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Origen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's just the "starve the beast" strategy.

Try solving the poverty itself, even a Republican who does so gets called a socialist. That's why the John Birch people called Eisenhower a commie

You and your wife wouldn’t be too happy if the medical field spontaneously used focusing on solving the “root causes” of cancer rather than treating people who have cancer right now

Police are a right now solution to crime. This fantasy idea of solving poverty with our infinite resource generator is a years-down-the road solution, if that

Any sane person should also always fear crime more than police. Crime can get really fucking brutal when we are talking gang violence

[Origen]

No, we wouldn't, but oncologists aren't killing minorities in disproportionate numbers and suffering zero consequences when they do

Oncologists aren't working hand in hand with real estate interests to crush the poor and homeless with bipartisan support

I am not opposed to the existence of police, but I would very much like to disarm them and distribute their too-numerous roles into a more manageable set of expectations. You know, reform.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Origen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, we wouldn't, but oncologists aren't killing minorities in disproportionate numbers and suffering zero consequences when they do

Oncologists aren't working hand in hand with real estate interests to crush the poor and homeless with bipartisan support

I am not opposed to the existence of police, but I would very much like to disarm them and distribute their too-numerous roles into a more manageable set of expectations. You know, reform.

What you call reform I call better training

That requires strict qualifications for the quality of professional who can handle this difficult and rigorous training. This means not hamstringing their ability to hire and train the right people

This is all very simple

[Origen]

So, once again, more of the same? Despite the brief murmurs of "defund the police", police budgets still went up nationally almost everywhere?

Look for articles on the APD, GSP, and the Atlanta Forest Defenders.

I'm not saying you are wrong, but I do not think it is so simple

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by Origen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, we wouldn't, but oncologists aren't killing minorities in disproportionate numbers and suffering zero consequences when they do

Oncologists aren't working hand in hand with real estate interests to crush the poor and homeless with bipartisan support

I am not opposed to the existence of police, but I would very much like to disarm them and distribute their too-numerous roles into a more manageable set of expectations. You know, reform.

Chauvin is currently probably getting raped in prison for "murdering" a black guy, even though he was actually just employing a tactic that his particular department had approved of. But he's white and floyd was black so hey it must be racisms!

Some minority groups commit more crime than others, so they naturally are over represented in prisons. Asians being an exception; they actually commit less crime than white people, and hey look at that- there are fewer asians in jail per-capita than whites! Disparities in incarceration rates don't just automatically mean racism, but that's the kind of moronic conclusion you can come to when you just guzzle leftist koolaid all day.

Most poor black people *don't* commit crime, so I don't want to hear blatant excuse-making for those that do.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Originally Posted by Origen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's just the "starve the beast" strategy.

Try solving the poverty itself, even a Republican who does so gets called a socialist. That's why the John Birch people called Eisenhower a commie

Ah, you probably know about Ike's nephew or something. Ike wrote him a mil-spec grade letter while President. Basically spelled out the exact terrain that is fuckin with ye ol' American Way as we speak "Texas preachers" he even mentions at one point I am almost positive.

History: complicated, until you study it. Then just weird.

[Origen]

America has like, a quarter of the world's total prisoners and we're about 4% of the total population

I know conservatives love to see lower class people incarcerated for crimes that more fortunate people can afford, but it obviously isn't working

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Origen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

America has like, a quarter of the world's total prisoners and we're about 4% of the total population

I know conservatives love to see lower class people incarcerated for crimes that more fortunate people can afford, but it obviously isn't working

Yea turns out it’s really really hard to permanently change someone like a sociopath or narcissists personalities. We also can’t rehabilitate things like pedopholia

But if you have some MKULTRA sort of way to re-program someone, I’m sure the penal system and behavioral health might be interested

Not committing multiple felonies is not rocket science. The majority of the poor know and understand how to avoid doing it their entire lives