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[Ekco]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is the idea that each reality can contain multiple simulations (and each of those can have sub nested simulations), ergo simulations outnumber realities and of we imagine we are randomly inserted into one of these experiences then it is most likely we end up in the most common category, ie a simulated one?

yeah, the math works out to be like basically the odds of winning the powerball is your chance of being in reality_01 and not simulation_387453456 or whatever

it's a thought experiment you can't disprove and math agrees with it

[Ekco]

really really fucks with people like Physicist S. James Gates, Jr.



Roko's Basilisk is the one that makes AI scientists have mental breaks.

[Ekco]

Rnf not having a edit button is so dumb

[bcbrown]

There's a similar argument to be made using entropy calculations that at any given second, it's actually more likely that the universe randomly arranged itself to create us and our memories of the past out of the swirling chaos than that what we remember actually happened.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's a similar argument to be made using entropy calculations that at any given second, it's actually more likely that the universe randomly arranged itself to create us and our memories of the past out of the swirling chaos than that what we remember actually happened.

That reminds me of Feyman’s many paths but on a larger scale.

[Cecily]

There was thing going around where apparently if you shoot a certain type of laser on a wall whilst on DMT you see matrix-like code going by. Guy has a project going on having a bunch of people independently to verify it. Kinda neat but simulation theory also feels like a secular version of religious escapism. Why I'm a big fan of nihilism to occam's razor all that shit into it does not fucking matter.

[bcbrown]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That reminds me of Feyman’s many paths but on a larger scale.

Are you talking about Feynman diagrams?

I've never made that connection, but now that you mention it I certainly see it. Have you read his book QED? I think you'd really like it.

I came across this idea in an absolutely insane book, Time's Arrow by Huw Price. The argument goes something like this. Imagine a shoebox filled with white and black stones. If you first place all the white stones on the left side and the black stones on the white side, after you shake it up they'll all end up jumbled. If you shake it again it'll stay jumbled. This is kinda what entropy is: ordered arrangements of matter tend towards becoming disordered over time. It's possible that if you shake the box it'll end up sorted with all white on one side and black on the other, but it's very unlikely.

This is what we mean by the "arrow of time": certain things tend to become more disordered in the future, and more ordered in the past. You'll never see a broken egg on the floor leap up and reform whole in your hand, even though it's physically possible for that to happen. Price's argument rests on the fact that our brains are physical arrangements of matter, and our memories are stored in that matter. Since it's vanishingly unlikely that the arrangement of matter could ever be as ordered as it was in the past, it could actually be more likely that the random perturbations of matter somehow formed such that we have a memory of a well-ordered past than that the well-ordered past actually happened.

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Kinda neat but simulation theory also feels like a secular version of religious escapism. Why I'm a big fan of nihilism to occam's razor all that shit into it does not fucking matter.

Yeah, I feel similarly. If a theory doesn't make any useful predictions that can actually prove or disprove the theory, it's not really worth spending too much time on. Can be fun to think about but in the end doesn't really matter.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is the idea that each reality can contain multiple simulations (and each of those can have sub nested simulations), ergo simulations outnumber realities and of we imagine we are randomly inserted into one of these experiences then it is most likely we end up in the most common category, ie a simulated one?

Do we really "need" so many methods for denying Christ?

[Ekco]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Kinda neat but simulation theory also feels like a secular version of religious escapism. Why I'm a big fan of nihilism to occam's razor all that shit into it does not fucking matter.

yeah, as grey matter increases we create more and more complex belief structures as a defense mechanism against the great long sleep, next evolutionary leap will be merging all the abrahamics together like in Dune and remixing some AI in there and Hindu godheadism.

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[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's a similar argument to be made using entropy calculations that at any given second, it's actually more likely that the universe randomly arranged itself to create us and our memories of the past out of the swirling chaos than that what we remember actually happened.

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