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Old 07-29-2025, 05:02 PM
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Setting aside the assumption that gatherers depended on hunters when the reality seems to be the other way around in the vast majority of cultures historically, that seems inaccurate on its face as well. Psychopaths may be hunters (or gatherers), but not all hunters (or gatherers) are psychopaths.

The features that make a psychopath simply tend to be beneficial in corporate culture - aggression, narcissism, blame-shifting, lack of empathy, delusions of grandeur, etc.
confirmed, anyone who suggests a book like who moved my cheese is just a mindful sociopath in training.

all of those corporate self-help books are just sociopath manuals... how to make every human relationship transactional. if your friends don't financially benefit you, cut them from your life. doing a swot analysis on whether or not to get divorced.
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Old 07-30-2025, 10:23 AM
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TLDR thread but would be pretty awkward if they did a study and found out that these types of games actually contribute to reducing sexual assault and crimes in the real world and that by banning them they are effectively advocating for people to be assaulted.
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TLDR thread but would be pretty awkward if they did a study and found out that these types of games actually contribute to reducing sexual assault and crimes in the real world and that by banning them they are effectively advocating for people to be assaulted.
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TLDR thread but would be pretty awkward if they did a study and found out that these types of games actually contribute to reducing sexual assault and crimes in the real world and that by banning them they are effectively advocating for people to be assaulted.
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TLDR thread but would be pretty awkward if they did a study and found out that these types of games actually contribute to reducing sexual assault and crimes in the real world and that by banning them they are effectively advocating for people to be assaulted.
I wondered this with the advance in technology allowing pedo’s to have VR sex with digital children

Would it help to protect IRL children, or would it cause them to want the “real thing” even more

I fear the latter though

Edit: and the reason for fearing the latter is that due to the junk dopamine fix of porn in general, people that have a problem with it tend to continue to seek more and more taboo or otherwise abnormal kinds in order to continue to shock and infuse their developing porn dopamine tolerance. Which is one of my many critiques of porn as being unhealthy
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I wondered this with the advance in technology allowing pedo’s to have VR sex with digital children

Would it help to protect IRL children, or would it cause them to want the “real thing” even more

I fear the latter though

Edit: and the reason for fearing the latter is that due to the junk dopamine fix of porn in general, people that have a problem with it tend to continue to seek more and more taboo or otherwise abnormal kinds in order to continue to shock and infuse their developing porn dopamine tolerance. Which is one of my many critiques of porn as being unhealthy
There was already an "experiment", of sorts, conducted in Japan. They previously had child porn legal there, and then a few years back they made it legal. A win for everyone (or at least children who don't like being raped), right?

Actually, no: the number of reported child abuse cases went up, dramatically (see the third slide of this presentation): https://www.fmu.ac.jp/home/public_h/...%20handout.pdf).

It turns out, child predators already have plenty of incentive not to rape children; that's not the problem. It's like when the penalty for murder is 40 years in prison, and politicians change it to 50: it doesn't lower the murder rate, because no one thinks "well if it's only 40 years I'm totally going to kill this guy, but if it's 50 fuck that".

Same issue with sex offenders: it's not that there isn't enough deterrence, it's that they have (sick) urges which cause them to harm others despite the consequences. More threats don't help ... but giving those people an outlet for their urges, which doesn't harm anyone else, does.

If anyone is interested in learning more (doubtful in this forum), this article You’re 16. You’re a Pedophile. You Don’t Want to Hurt Anyone. What Do You Do Now? is fascinating. If people really want to stop child rape, it begins with understanding the sex offender as a human being ... but our own (human) biases make us want to do the exact opposite (and so, child sex abuse continues ... while idiots continue to pointlessly censor video games).
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There was already an "experiment", of sorts, conducted in Japan. They previously had child porn legal there, and then a few years back they made it legal. A win for everyone (or at least children who don't like being raped), right?

Actually, no: the number of reported child abuse cases went up, dramatically (see the third slide of this presentation): https://www.fmu.ac.jp/home/public_h/...%20handout.pdf).

It turns out, child predators already have plenty of incentive not to rape children; that's not the problem. It's like when the penalty for murder is 40 years in prison, and politicians change it to 50: it doesn't lower the murder rate, because no one thinks "well if it's only 40 years I'm totally going to kill this guy, but if it's 50 fuck that".

Same issue with sex offenders: it's not that there isn't enough deterrence, it's that they have (sick) urges which cause them to harm others despite the consequences. More threats don't help ... but giving those people an outlet for their urges, which doesn't harm anyone else, does.

If anyone is interested in learning more (doubtful in this forum), this article You’re 16. You’re a Pedophile. You Don’t Want to Hurt Anyone. What Do You Do Now? is fascinating. If people really want to stop child rape, it begins with understanding the sex offender as a human being ... but our own (human) biases make us want to do the exact opposite (and so, child sex abuse continues ... while idiots continue to pointlessly censor video games).
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Agree on many points. A harsher sentence typically is not going to on its own create deterrence because criminals IMO (as someone that watches a lot of tru crime) are typically very stupid people who tend to assume they won’t get caught, no matter how harsh the sentence

However

Longer sentences still serve to physically protect the public via quarantining the threat away for longer

Of course we all hope for rehabilitation, but the rates of rehabilitation for sex offenders and pedo’s are some of the record lowest of any disorder, from I’ve heard. Of course the argument can be made that the rates are so low because of the methods and societies perception of the perpetrator. But it’s a chicken or the egg argument, is the perception based on the fact a lot of lay people do realize the rates of rehabilitation for this disorder are low, and have thus become disenfranchised with the idea of continuing to spend resources trying

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