Bob's Perfect World- A wall of text regarding the raid scene on P99

[Haul]

Originally Posted by SearyxTZ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Searyx's Perfect World

P1999 but with PvP and antiKringeHax switches on.

GMs sit back and sip long island iced tea while the players kill eachother for content and don't have to poopsock or politick for pixels.

This.

[Tasslehofp99]

Part 2 of this solution - Add /guildwar command, if guild A refuses to accept guildwar with guild B, training commences.

Part 3 of this solution - Drink beer and get ready for some PVP action on p99, while not having to make an entirely new server.


Or you could just make a rotation for the more exclusive boss mobs (easiest, most peaceful solution).

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by Nivar Quartz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is exactly what I mean by making the rules to complicated, keeping things simple and followed to a "T" is the only way it would work here, muddying up the rotation rules is just the same as grieving. anything under 12-24 hrs is unreasonable for a legit rotation that would have staying power, enless a few certain guilds start thinking selfishly because the mob is sitting up and they can put up the numbers to kill it right that second. An easy answer for said guild if a rotation is set up is sorry, check the list and contact that guild rep for more details, or be on your way.

Also, a rotation for VP really isnt needed, TR and TMO have a massive head start on keys and key classes needed to enter and clear, so that part of the rotation discussion would be in the rotation counsel but obviously those 2 would determine what they wanted to do, in or out of counsel.

hehe, I played on prexus too. I remember it differently though, see there WAS a raid calender/rotation, then a guild named Stasis came along and said FUCK THIS WE PAY TO PLAY FIRST COME FIRST SERVE PEACE. That was the end of that.

[Skope]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

hehe, I played on prexus too. I remember it differently though, see there WAS a raid calender/rotation, then a guild named Stasis came along and said FUCK THIS WE PAY TO PLAY FIRST COME FIRST SERVE PEACE. That was the end of that.

lasted for quite a while, too. Stasis was pretty much ostracized by the rest of the server for the douchebaggery and they quickly fell apart, fractured into stasis/poison dart frogs and then fell apart again, and again, and again.

[Anger]

Interested to see what the GM's think about this idea.

[Saiene]

Personally don't think it'll have the desired effect that you think. Eventually it will just be the guild that is better at training that will get all of the loots. The other guilds will drop down a notch and no longer be able to compete. That being said, I think its a great idea. GM's getting involved in matters wasn't classic at all, and besides, it was always extremely annoying. Training etc is just part of EQ.

[Harrison]

I don't know, on the nameless, we had GMs on call. I remember specific GM names, even, I saw them so often. (And not for the reasons you think lmao...I did some funny shit that got me put in time out quite often.)

Vinshayr, that guy fucking owned.

[Radiskull]

Somehow this became a rotation thread. I like Bob's idea, but it's never going to happen. Even if it did happen, there is too much animosity between the TR and TMO for there to be a willingness to negotiate kills. The training and such would never cease, and I feel quite strongly that OTHER guilds would suffer more then TR and TMO, who are already exposed to this drama all the time. If a guild did get a shot at, say a CT or VS kill, one group of either guild could ruin it. The strong would get stronger, due to their willingness to stoop lower.

As far as the rotation goes, there is zero reason for TR or TMO to EVER let anyone in on a relevant kill. If they decided to rotate on Trak (I know, never happening) then for a 3rd guild to even get on the rotation they'd have to show a willingness to poopsock EVERY Trak kill they way TR and TMO have the last few months. I see no other guild on the server even contemplating this as an option. So any rotation talks should be between TR and TMO, not Divinity, Taken, VD, BDA, etc. Want to come at the two big dogs, you have to put in what they've put in, which is countless hours doing nothing on a ledge in Sebilis.

My solution? Start throwing out raid suspensions like they're going out of style. Two guilds have an altercation? Good luck next week on a kill. It'd allow honest competition, and fear of not raiding for a week would create a more civlized raiding environment. If two guilds want to camp at Trak until he spawns, you're doing it at your own risk. After 2-3 one week raid suspensions, guilds will start to fall apart or start to talk.

[Skope]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

only way those guilds get into a rotation is if the GMs enforced it.

the GMs talked a lot about not caring about the population and not giving 2 shits about the top 2 guilds or any guilds on the server, but if anyone thinks this to be even remotely true anymore (and i highly doubted that it ever was) is lying to themselves.

The guides/GMs dont mind showing up to TR/TMO altercations week in and week out and they never settle it. Sometimes they boot 1 guild out of the zone, the next week they give a week suspension to someone training. Though they claimed they wanted them to work it out on their own it never actually happened. I cant recall a single time where Uth or Rogean ported into seb after getting a petition (or 500 of them and only 2-3 that are actually legible), saw the dumbasses sitting there and said "eff you, im deleting the loot and he's not spawning for a week until you get this shit settled." THAT is the hallmark of a GM not giving 2 shits and actually wanting to take a step back and not be involved in their BS. This doesn't happen and it has never happened. That's what i've meant by pandering.

You can also approach this in a different way:

Single out the guilds/people responsible for not wanting to come to agreements and not giving in a little bit so you, the staff, can get the raiders out of your hair.

This has already been pointed out, but Rogean backtracked on a promise of enforcing rule(s) that the players agreed to during the poopsock. Granted all the rules were pretty garbage back then, the one rule in particular actually made poopsock somewhat fair

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by Anger [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Interested to see what the GM's think about this idea.

They've said, time and again, no FFA.