Regarding item loot.

[Rushmore]

still tho item loot is going to hurt the causal player base badly.

[Xareth]

Originally Posted by Lasher [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

bag/inventory item loot can kind of screw over the few classes that routinly chang their weapons. bard with weapons and instruments and warrior with 1hnders and 2hnders.

Some classes easily go with out ever needing to change weapons. I dont know if it can be done but if this type of item loot is going in i would say have a special bag that has like 2 slots so there be can be 2 items you can protect

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[Prahadigm24]

I don't see a problem with manastones. If you really want to use one without any risk, just keep it equipped! With the "1 item from inventory" rule, players will have to set priorities and that's a challenging, positive side-effect!

"1 item from bags, but not from the main inventory slots" would cause a few problems. E.g. as a caster who just looted an awesome melee item which I cannot equip, I'll simply put it into a main inventory slot.

Melees (excluding Bards here) don't have to carry multiple weapon sets around - maybe you want to bring extra weapons for raids, but you'll have a raid force to protect you in that case. There are also quite a few NO DROP weapons which you might carry as alternative in your bags! This is, again, a question of priorities: saftey vs. power/flexibility.

Bard instruments are a different thing, that's correct. They need a different solution or exception.

[Bockscar]

Primary/secondary-equippable items should not be lootable even from bags. Bards cannot function without multiple instruments in their inventory, and several classes cannot function if they lose their weapons which can happen in a number of ways even with bagloot. If you lose your weapons as a rogue, you're completely stuck. If you can't carry several instruments on a bard, you're useless. If you don't carry two sets of weapons on a warrior, you either can't PvE or can't PvP.

Or just don't have any kind of itemloot at all. It'll hurt the server in a number of ways, there are no real arguments for it and countless arguments against it, the majority is against it, and it has never really worked out anywhere in the entire history of Everquest. If that's not reason enough to ditch it, I don't know what kind of logic goes into this decision.

[Khurak]

Disclaimer : I intend to play a Bard, so may be biased.

You will have 4 instruments + 2 weapons at mid game and above.
At least 2 out of 4 top line instruments are droppable and the class mechanic is built around using them to enhance your buffs.
If the option to have equipped gear not lootable is chosen, I would suggest Inventory slots be not lootable as well as to take this into account (ie trade off between bags and safe pieces of gear seems fair).

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[Tajin]

item loot... just 1 item, no looting in bag

[Yukahwa]

Tajin makes a good point here

[Lasher]

Not sure if it was said but if disarm works properly you would see melee losing their weapons on red99 which even the pvp servers on live decided to not allow after a very short time

[vinx]

Originally Posted by Lasher [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not sure if it was said but if disarm works properly you would see melee losing their weapons on red99 which even the pvp servers on live decided to not allow after a very short time

how short a time?
I seem to recall messing around with friends disarming each other in duels
around umm, kunark for sure.. possibly velious

[Lasher]

sorry didnt clarify, i meant looting weapons in pvp only lasted for a short time