How do Barbarian Shamans and their toys hold up in Velious?

[Droog007]

Originally Posted by Nerosys [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

... especially going into an expansion where mobs hit alot harder therefore making regen even less of a boon ...

As a troll shaman I do envy frontal stun immunity sometimes - but I have to disagree that mobs doing more DPS somehow makes increased HP regeneration less good.

[Splorf22]

To reiterate the facts posted in this thread, player skill >> race.

[azeth]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To reiterate the facts posted in this thread, player skill >> race.

logically yes, but im sorry you can't deny the perks of having Hide as a cleric, or stun immunity as a tank/soloing Sham.

[Nerosys]

Originally Posted by Droog007 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As a troll shaman I do envy frontal stun immunity sometimes - but I have to disagree that mobs doing more DPS somehow makes increased HP regeneration less good.

Do you think an extra what 15 regen is going to help you more than being able to get that slow off of mobs triple hitting you? again its situational based on what your fighting and regen starts to play a > role than stun immunity on a slowed mob. my experiences are from resisted slows and soloing only... i will adjust my statement to say that regen will help more vs a slowed mob as you will actually have time to regen health but it still wont be as detrimental as not being able to cast anything while stunned.

[quido]

Barbs make the tastiest dick taters.

[Droog007]

Originally Posted by Nerosys [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do you think an extra what 15 regen is going to help you more than being able to get that slow off of mobs triple hitting you?

Not arguing stun immunity vs. regen. Simply stating that DPS vs. HP regen is purely additive. You can't fight arithmetic. Either you outlast the mob or it outlasts you. Every little bit helps.

Also - triple hits interrupt Ogres just as much as they do Trolls. The only thing the Ogre racial is good for is against BASH. (not saying it isn't awesome)

[Nerosys]

Originally Posted by Droog007 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not arguing stun immunity vs. regen. Simply stating that DPS vs. HP regen is purely additive. You can't fight arithmetic. Either you outlast the mob or it outlasts you. Every little bit helps.

correct but you cant argue one withought having the facts from the other... You can't have both your innate regen and stun immunity.

And yes Jeremy even though i rolled ogre this time it was a long debate wether i wanted to go barb as they do look pimp especially with new models. White hair, White beard all norse like > all.

[fadetree]

troll : better general playing experience.
ogre : better specific situational survival.
barb : gets all the wimmins.

Take your pick.

[Hailto]

Originally Posted by azeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

logically yes, but im sorry you can't deny the perks of having Hide as a cleric, or stun immunity as a tank/soloing Sham.

I can vouch for this, was doing Rak'Ashiir last night to finish up my shaman epic, we got a massive train somehow, killed Rak'Ashiir but wiped. Cleric used hide and was able to rez me in time to loot the scale, otherwise would have had to go back to fear and farm another tear and start over, which would have bee no bueno.

[Cars]

I think it says something when the first and second most accomplished solo shamans are barbarians. Will that hold up in Velious? probably not, but all shaman's are OP come velious so play what you like best.

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