My proposal for Raiding guilds and GMs of P1999

[Loke]

Originally Posted by Alawen Everywhere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If Dark Ascension stops camping, the camping will stop.

I know you'll continue to try to pretend it's some intangible problem that somehow landed on the server, but the truth is that your only strategy comes from the leader you got rid of, Salty. Your guild and your guild alone created the current raid environment. Your guild and your guild alone can stop it.

Do the right thing.

Yes, (and I don't speak for Dark Ascension here) but it would appear that we are unwilling to stop it since the alternative would be watching IB kill mobs.

You pretend like everyone else is just suppose to conform to the play style that you prefer, but that isn't how this works. People are going to do what benefits them - and at the moment, camping mobs benefits DA.

And as far as Salty goes, I was still in IV when Salty was around - and he was never my guild leader... so yea, can't really comment on him since I only knew him as Tyene from Combine briefly.

[Alawen Everywhere]

Originally Posted by astarothel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Some other guild unhappy with the situation will zerg recruit and do the exact same camping. Rather come up with a way to nuke it for good.

Then we'll break their balls until they come to the forums whining for help just like this.

There is a dragon on this server, but he's definitely not sleeping. I'm not sure he ever sleeps.

[Icecometus]

Originally Posted by Supreme [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

/facepalm.....

Raids are not possible when everything is perma-camped from the time it dies till the time it respawns.

As i said before there are alot of us that do not have the time nor the desire to sit around for hours..even days..on end waiting for content to spawn we did 10-11 years ago...

seriously have you not read the thread?

Yeah. Well when the people camping the BOSSES are too afraid to drop below 15 they tend to not clear the planes. It is totally possible to go up and clear the planes even if another guild is exploiting the raid rules and camping the bosses with 15.

There are constantly more and more 46 plus peeps that are joining the currently active guilds and need their planer armor. I don't want to think about how many times I have clear the planes with no hope at a boss.

[Icecometus]

Originally Posted by tsonka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I do not appreciate that comment Icecometus, do nto talk shit on my guild

Just because my people play to have fun instead of shitting in a tube sock does not mean anythign is dead

Fair enough. It was not a malicious statement, just an observation.

[G13]

Another thread where IB comes in with their egos and destroys it with shit talking, flaming, and an elitist attitude. Obviously you guys are still trying to play the propaganda board warrior game with a bunch of lies.

So now the crutch they seem to be leaning on is "They are better at mobilization and organization" than anyone else, and proceed to call everyone n00bs. Let's get to the truth of the matter then. In the past they "camped" mobs as well. They just used a druid to do it instead of having 15 in zone do it. WOW, what a difference. So they camped at a druid/wiz ring and/or used shady methods to get somewhere in 5 minutes after a batphone instead of just being there ready. Much respect brews.

The fact of the matter is last week you were handed Innoruuk after you whined, cried, and lied to a GM. Vittra n00bed up a pull and trainwrecked your AFK posse at the hate entrance. Gwence you should know since you were there with song running and attempting to fight mobs but got feared by a ghast. The chain aggro from your song bringing in even more mobs. GG.

DA ported up and beat you by numbers in 5 minutes. If that isn't organization, then I don't know what is. You hadn't even started resing yet when DA had 15+ in zone ready. IB then petitioned and lied to a GM, claiming a monk "planted" mobs on the East wall to trick Vittra (a MONK BTW) into training IB. Yes, there are screenshots that confirm this idiocy and I'll be happy to post them here. DA was ported out by the GM, even though Hate is a 2 raid mob boss zone and meastro was up, and IB was given carte blanche, Inny on a platter. GG. Much respect to your l33t skills brews. We're not talking about buggy king room pathing in perma, where IB was given first shot at VOX because of it and failed miserably bind rushing Vox, but I digress. Your monk wiped you in Hate. You knew this to be true, and you lied to a GM anyways to get your way. Everyone get that? Good

The GMs dont want FFA. It was tried and guess who screwed it up with their greed? IB. Not DA. Not Trans. Not Divinity. Not Remedy. Not Salty.

So either you people need to create a system with a majority vote that brings the server back to Planet Earth, or have this server be at the mercy of IB's greed. Your choice. There is a real life out there living beyond these fucking pixels ya know. If IB wants to claim victory and being the best fine, let them. Put in the rotation and congratulate them on having no lives and being the "best" at classic Everquest. It really is sad that what could have been a constructive thread for the health of the server overall was turned into a flamefest because of the fragile ego of people in IB. Congratulations guys. Well done.

[Alawen Everywhere]

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, (and I don't speak for Dark Ascension here) but it would appear that we are unwilling to stop it since the alternative would be watching IB kill mobs.

You pretend like everyone else is just suppose to conform to the play style that you prefer, but that isn't how this works. People are going to do what benefits them - and at the moment, camping mobs benefits DA.

And as far as Salty goes, I was still in IV when Salty was around - and he was never my guild leader... so yea, can't really comment on him since I only knew him as Tyene from Combine briefly.

You just admitted that your guild is incapable of mobilizing for a race and that this is why you have tried to eliminate that part of the EverQuest skill set. I don't understand why you're insulted when I question your skills, experience and leadership. You are sub-par, by your very own standards.

Sit and stew, then. This entire thread is yet another failed attempt at propaganda against IB. Do you know what the net effect of all this is? You make us look amazing. You make us look unbeatable. You direct the players who want to part of the best to app to us. Thanks.

[Supreme]

Originally Posted by Icecometus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah. Well when the people camping the BOSSES are too afraid to drop below 15 they tend to not clear the planes. It is totally possible to go up and clear the planes even if another guild is exploiting the raid rules and camping the bosses with 15.

There are constantly more and more 46 plus peeps that are joining the currently active guilds and need their planer armor. I don't want to think about how many times I have clear the planes with no hope at a boss.

Honestly not worth it to go into pofear and pohate to clear trash mobs that do not drop planar gear..or port up to hate to kill the sporadically placed planar mobs and get 10 or so kills.

Its perma camped/dead. I am a rogue and check often.

[Alawen Everywhere]

Hey look, anonymous troll is here to tell everyone the facts! Thanks anonymous troll! No need to post any evidence, your word is good enough for us!

Hey, would you like to come over for dinner? My wife would like to meet you. She thinks your wisdom could be helpful for our marriage.

[Taxi]

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You pretend like everyone else is just suppose to conform to the play style that you prefer, but that isn't how this works. People are going to do what benefits them - and at the moment, camping mobs benefits DA.

Loke youre funny, youre talking about camping rules as if theyre the laws of evolution by Darwin.

So when people are saying that perma-locking mobs is an abuse of the camping rules, pointing that out is asking the mega guilds to conform to other players playstyle?

The greediness and the extent to which people are willing to go to get items are the reason why the camping rules are obsolete and need to be re-worked. Its transparent why players like Loke want things to stay the way they are.

Im glad to see a Dev say that they see theres a problem, because long term its going to be a bigger problem with the pop getting to higher tiers.

Its gonna be a matter of who can gather the biggest zerg guild, and arranging time zones so you can claim a mob 24/7.

[azxten]

Here's my proposal.. roll up a fattie and zone out until Kunark comes out because classic always had high end content problems. If you're just trying to get a kill for the sake of reliving it I'm sure that will happen and if you're worried about drops then have fun stressing.