So who wants to see the potential teams? - Page 13

Vexenu · #**121** 11-11-2013, 08:32 PM

Item loot = literally half the server rolls Druids and Wizards and port around naked looking for easy ganks. The other half of the server zone plugs instantly when PvP that isn't overwhelmingly in their favor goes down. Server is more dead than Red within months.

To be blunt, "for science" is a stupid fucking attitude. I get that it's nilbog's box to play with, but that doesn't make it any less stupid. It's like if Wal-Mart ran a special where half the customers got their items for free and the other half got stabbed in the face by the cashier. Who the fuck is gonna shop there?

If nilbog wants a Teams server with item loot, that's his prerogative, but any type of item loot is going to turn away a ton of potential players right off the bat. The server would only reach a fraction of its potential. It seems very short-sighted to go to the trouble of making a new server only to cripple it with item loot, which is one of the most universally unpopular features in EQ. There is a reason that item loot debuted on RZ but was never implemented on the later PvP servers. It's just about the worst feature possible in a game that is all about acquiring gear.

Imagine if one of your items was randomly deleted each time you died in PvE? Would anyone clamor to play on that ruleset? Of course not. It would be fucking retarded.

And it's no less stupid to lose items in PvP. All it does is encourage extremely lame tactics and running away. Item loot turns a PvP server into a gank and run server.

SamwiseRed · #**122** 11-11-2013, 08:36 PM

guess i am coming to the realization there will never be another sz server [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] this makes me sad but fuck it man. shit sucks but at least well have a new box. i am more excited about item loot than teams now since teams will probably be a frankstein shit fest in the name of science.

all of your manastone and fungi will belong to me.

Lowlife · #**123** 11-11-2013, 08:37 PM

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Item loot = literally half the server rolls Druids and Wizards and port around naked looking for easy ganks. The other half of the server zone plugs instantly when PvP that isn't overwhelmingly in their favor goes down. Server is more dead than Red within months.

To be blunt, "for science" is a stupid fucking attitude. I get that it's nilbog's box to play with, but that doesn't make it any less stupid. It's like if Wal-Mart ran a special where half the customers got their items for free and the other half got stabbed in the face by the cashier. Who the fuck is gonna shop there?

If nilbog wants a Teams server with item loot, that's his prerogative, but any type of item loot is going to turn away a ton of potential players right off the bat. The server would only reach a fraction of its potential. It seems very short-sighted to go to the trouble of making a new server only to cripple it with item loot, which is one of the most universally unpopular features in EQ. There is a reason that item loot debuted on RZ but was never implemented on the later PvP servers. It's just about the worst feature possible in a game that is all about acquiring gear.

Imagine if one of your items was randomly deleted each time you died in PvE? Would anyone clamor to play on that ruleset? Of course not. It would be fucking retarded.

And it's no less stupid to lose items in PvP. All it does is encourage extremely lame tactics and running away. Item loot turns a PvP server into a gank and run server.

Truth.

SamwiseRed · #**124** 11-11-2013, 08:38 PM

since item loot was added without a poll or mentioning to players, i am pretty sure teams server gonna be silly and possibly immerse breaking. at this point im expecting gnome beastlords teaming up with vah shir zerkers. embrace it for its ugliness, at least well have a new box to play on.

RIP The Dream of a Emu Sullon Zek.

Kergan · #**125** 11-11-2013, 08:38 PM

Vex, apparently the choice is made. You can see the early results of the poll that people are clearly split on the issue. While I agree with you that item loot = bad, Sirken has spoken.

At this point all we can do is try to help put an enjoyable system in place. And if item loot sucks, Sirken pretty much stated they won't pick that feature for a merged PVP server.

thugcruncher · #**126** 11-11-2013, 08:43 PM

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SamwiseRed · #**127** 11-11-2013, 08:43 PM

i dont like u using my gif ^

Sirken · #**128** 11-11-2013, 08:54 PM

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so youre saying the green ranger team is OP? ill get to work on that! :P

Samwise, i feel the same way about Vallon, and it breaks my pixelated heart

SamwiseRed · #**129** 11-11-2013, 08:54 PM

if vallon was HARD coded id hit it.

Lowlife · #**130** 11-11-2013, 09:12 PM

suggestion from blue forums

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One of the most obnoxious parts of red is all the morons who think that because they can kill noobs in Unrest with a fungi, cloak of flames, and a ragebringer/RFS they are some sort of Elfquest badasses.

IMO every item should have a 'max-lootable-level' property and if your character dies in PVP under that level, your item can be looted. An easy way to set max lootable would be any item from a mob = mob_level-15. So fungi tunics would be lootable off twinks below level 41, Cloak of Flames below 40, RFS below 35, Epic below 50, etc.