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[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by kphooper33 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Except by TMO, IB, FE, BDA you mean right? "We are not only not going to punish you for being complete D-bags to the server for years" We are going to give the casual scum a couple pops to fight over a month between 5-10 guilds that will be completely separate from yours, AND we are going to give you MQ champions (2-3 guilds, 1/4 the people) even MORE loot for your troubles. Hooray!" So like how are ANY of the simulated repop dragons aside from VP open to Tier1? Won't they have enough grief with the normal pops that they have already been getting for 2-3 years AND full VP repops as well? I know, this is better than it was, and that is AWESOME.. but I just don't see how Tier 2 players, who now have a chance of getting a slice of the pie, should be happy about Tier 1 players getting to keep their ENTIRE pie, and get another pie as well? If anyone should be happy about this, it should be T1, they gained more than anyone.. couldn't see that coming.

It's probably something that is still open to some tweaking. Besides, "Tier 2 players" should be less concerned with what is happening to "Tier 1 players" and more concerned with what is happening to them. The goal here wasn't to punish TMO. The goal was to open up the raid scene. (Well I guess technically the goal was to reduce petitions).


The thing I dislike about this system is the way VP works. We all know that the line between "hardcore" raiders and "casual" raiders is primarily the lengths that the former are willing to go to in order to secure a kill. They'll track, have batphone lists, zerg up their guild to ensure the ability to track and field a raid force at any time of day or night, etc. The latter won't generally do that stuff.

So why is the thing that qualifies a guild for Tier 1 attempting to kill a VP dragon? That doesn't indicate that guild wants to track, batphone, zerg, or become involved in the drama that is always surrounding those top guilds. It really does feel like this is intended to be a punishment for any Tier 2 guild trying to down a VP dragon.

[Raavak]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So why is the thing that qualifies a guild for Tier 1 attempting to kill a VP dragon?

I guess because for this system you need to draw a line somewhere, and Veeshan's Peak is Kunark's "end game". The end game is where the most heated competition exists; where the hard-core raiders play.

I can see how A-Team might view this, and maybe some in BDA, etc. You had hoped that end game loot would be more accessible after this was settled. But really, that's not Classic.

Honestly, farm Tier 2 targets for half a year and maybe Velious may be close anyway, after which VP will be much more open, and this whole agreement will become moot. If its not out, bust into the Tier 1 rat race.

[Clark]

I feel no pity for you Nocsucow you're a scrub, and surely not my friend. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Nocsucow]

Originally Posted by Clark [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I feel no pity for you Nocsucow you're a scrub, and surely not my friend. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

and what makes me a scrub again ?

[Cyph]

In regards to the repops, will there be a randomness to it? There are many players who aren't located in the US (i.e. euro & asia).

[chickmagnet]

what about nobles on respawn? they only spawn on a 7 day timer....t1 guilds no longer going to be able to do them?

[Vandy]

Originally Posted by chickmagnet [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what about nobles on respawn? they only spawn on a 7 day timer....t1 guilds no longer going to be able to do them?

t1 guilds can race for 2nd two repops of the month so if you are so inclined to go after noble first then by all means you can still "compete" for him.

[Joyelle]

Well Tier-1 couldn't concede any mobs so they had to make extra so everyone could have kills. That's just too bad.

[baalzy]

I love all the "sky is falling the sky is falling" crap about 'devaluation' followed by custom99 derps.

You realize on live there were actual patches which occurred multiple times a month? These patches brought the server down and forced a repop.

Here:
http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/19992002.php

Look at it. LOOK AT IT. 3-4 patch days a month most months.

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by baalzy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I love all the "sky is falling the sky is falling" crap about 'devaluation' followed by custom99 derps.

You realize on live there were actual patches which occurred multiple times a month? These patches brought the server down and forced a repop.

Here:
http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/19992002.php

Look at it. LOOK AT IT. 3-4 patch days a month most months.

Those who were in favor of the status quo did not want a classic solution, they wanted the continuance of non-classic mechanics that allowed for non-classic monopolization of raid content.

They're simply unhappy that the playing field has been changed after they contributed literally thousands of hours to dominating the flawed playing field.