RnF is boring today, let's talk about Bob guild

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by log [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You guys keep us in the dark, flame us when the chosen few members do speak up.

Two people have already posted logs in this thread about how they tried to talk to Hyjal and he blew them off. What more do you want us to do?

Also I don't think I've flamed anyone in this thread. I'm not angry, just sad that even after the staff did their part there are still people who don't just want to relax a bit.

[Troubled]

Originally Posted by log [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My point being there is no distinct Tier 2 Guild rotation outlined anywhere.

As a matter of fact from what I've read there may not be one at all. It seems to me you all are so quick to jump on the bandwagon on some so called "fair rotation" when there is no public knowledge on the forums on who is dictating who gets which mobs.

I'm not here to defend doljon explicitly, moreso trying to understand what exactly is going on with tier 2 rotation 'for those guilds not included in raid summit', we are in the dark and that's not right for this thing to be fair to everyone like you guys claim.

How does one know if the rotation is fair and too there liking if there is nothing on the forums about it except for some vague discussion not really setting anything definitive.
Perhaps someone can answer these so it is known.

How are raid mobs being chosen for the tier 2 rotation? According to the GM's the only thing set in stone is that the tier 2 mobs are ffa.

and again i am quoting splorf.

As for the Tier2 rotation: I don't think it will last as a rotation beyond today. If we don't know the time in advance, I could see The A-Team having anywhere from 5-20 players depending on the time of day and how people's schedules happen to work out. So I think the Tier2 rotation will become more of a 'play nice agreement': coordinate where we go to minimize wasted effort, don't leapfrog or other nonsense, try to give everyone a shot at the best targets, etc. Of course, there is one guild that has no intention of playing nice, which brings us to <Lord Bob>

You guys keep us in the dark, flame us when the chosen few members do speak up.

Why would we post the rotation listing publicly for a guild like yours to try and prey on it?

Quit playing the "left in the dark" card. You all know very well all you have to do is talk to an officer in one of these T2 guilds if you're interested.

[log]

And again you spit some obtuse answer not really defining anything The Situation.

Which guild leaders exactly?
What is keeping it a fair rotation?

Im not asking for a list of who gets what target. Usually when you're asked to agree to something. you know what you're agreeing to beforehand

There is virtually no knowledge anywhere on these forums as to how t2 guilds are choosing which guilds get which target.

[oldschooltrader]

Log rolls downstairs
Over your Tiers
And Over Azure Guard

He doesnt read
Or PnP indeed

Hes Log Log Log

Hes Log Hes Log

Hes big, heavy and wood

Hes Log Hes Log

Worse than bad, def not good

[log]

And by flaming im mainly pointing my finger to the situation.

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Splorf22

As for the Tier2 rotation: I don't think it will last as a rotation beyond today. If we don't know the time in advance, I could see The A-Team having anywhere from 5-20 players depending on the time of day and how people's schedules happen to work out. So I think the Tier2 rotation will become more of a 'play nice agreement': coordinate where we go to minimize wasted effort, don't leapfrog or other nonsense, try to give everyone a shot at the best targets, etc. Of course, there is one guild that has no intention of playing nice, which brings us to <Lord Bob>

Also you keep quoting me here as some sort of evidence that the rotation is poofed, and that's not what it means at all. My guess is that guilds will agree to a rotation before each repop. HOWEVER, because we don't know how many people we be on (probably only BDA/Taken have enough to kill any target at any time), when things actually pop there will probably be a little scrambling. In other words if The A-Team picks Trakanon but Rogean repops things at 5AM, we aren't going to be on obviously and so BDA might move into that spot or something. The key message though, is that we'd like to try to work something out by talking rather than racing most of the time.

Last but not least: I've been asking for repops for a LONG TIME. The A-Team is not going to sit out the FFA repops just because FE or TMO aren't chained to their sofas. We plan on racing them and maybe even winning some of the time (and hopefully coordinating with the other causal guilds while we do so). Again, I'm just sad that there are people who abhor any sort of casual attitude in the game, even if its only 2 weeks out of the month.

[The Situation]

Originally Posted by log [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And again you spit some obtuse answer not really defining anything The Situation.

Which guild leaders exactly?
What is keeping it a fair rotation?

Im not asking for a list of who gets what target. Usually when you're asked to agree to something. you know what you're agreeing to beforehand

There is virtually no knowledge anywhere on these forums as to how t2 guilds are choosing which guilds get which target.

Quoting for posterity.

You should read the logs posted in this very thread.

[oldschooltrader]

Originally Posted by log [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is virtually no knowledge anywhere on these forums as to how t2 guilds are choosing which guilds get which target.

maybe u guys should have joined in the talks, we extended invitions for over a week and had 3 meetings

we talked ab Doljon each meeting on how we could not get a rep to the table

[The Situation]

Originally Posted by log [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And by flaming im mainly pointing my finger to the situation.

Are you talking about me? Or the situation at hand? I'm confused now.

[Troubled]

Originally Posted by log [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And again you spit some obtuse answer not really defining anything The Situation.

Which guild leaders exactly?
What is keeping it a fair rotation?

Im not asking for a list of who gets what target. Usually when you're asked to agree to something. you know what you're agreeing to beforehand

There is virtually no knowledge anywhere on these forums as to how t2 guilds are choosing which guilds get which target.

There doesn't need to be. Everyone doesn't need to know a process that's not fully hashed out yet.

If you're interested, it's up to you to find out who to talk to. Every guild has a recruitment thread and that usually includes a list of officers and the leader, who all have a hand in getting in keeping this thing rolling.

Bob was contacted by some of these people and didn't have any interest in learning about the process. That card is also a very weak one to play.