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Old 03-23-2014, 07:13 PM
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This server will spend more in resources in chasing RMT than running an adequate emulation of a game they never created themselves.

Great allocation of resources. I pity the poor idiots who trust these guys with the responsibility of their well-being.
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Old 03-24-2014, 01:31 AM
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This server will spend more in resources in chasing RMT than running an adequate emulation of a game they never created themselves.

Great allocation of resources. I pity the poor idiots who trust these guys with the responsibility of their well-being.
Awwww did someone get banned?
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Old 03-24-2014, 02:13 AM
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Awwww did someone get banned?
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Lol yeah. I am a bit upset. Oh well. Its not like it was expected that the offenders would have gone away painless.

On another note, if you really want something salty I can facilitate you...
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Old 03-23-2014, 07:15 PM
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The fact that Rogean and crew allowed this in the first place, and now it got out of control like this, is no one's fault but their own. Like i've heard alot of others say on different sites, RMT will never be stopped, you can ban, ban, ban, but you started the fire, and now its too hot to put out, sorry.

Like I heard from another member on another site, I wonder how many of those who got banned donated to the p99 server, site, etc? thats a good question, im sure there were quite a few. Oh well another loss on your end.

SoE runs their games better than these circus clowns, and thats a bad , bad thing lol.

You guys can reply, flame me all you want, but I always get the last word, I always do, so reply, say this, say that, I will not be reading it.

you cant STAND RMT, well , good luck stopping it lol. Cute though, Very cute.
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Old 03-23-2014, 08:06 PM
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Like I heard from another member on another site, I wonder how many of those who got banned donated to the p99 server, site, etc? thats a good question, im sure there were quite a few. Oh well another loss on your end.
So, allow people to break the rules because they donate?

I'd rather pay out of my pocket to keep the server running than compromise integrity and accept money from people breaking our rules. Don't bother donating if you think it helps you in the slightest. Donate because you enjoy playing the server while following the rules.
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Old 03-23-2014, 08:41 PM
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I'd rather pay out of my pocket to keep the server running than compromise integrity and accept money from people breaking our rules.
It may not be this project. But it will certainly be one of them. People can remain irrational longer than you can possibly remain solvent. Remember that.

And if you haven't already gotten a time-frame for an exit, I suggest you start building one.
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Old 03-24-2014, 07:27 AM
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It may not be this project. But it will certainly be one of them. People can remain irrational longer than you can possibly remain solvent. Remember that.

And if you haven't already gotten a time-frame for an exit, I suggest you start building one.

What the hell are you even talking about? It's a private server, it was probably never intended to be solvent, and I doubt that the admin needs to worry about an "exit".
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Old 03-24-2014, 09:44 AM
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Honestly , if there is a big need for purchasing items or plat, especially those who want to play but do not have the time to invest grinding 60 hours a week for loot, should have some kind of pay for plat option. This problem will continue as long as you have casual people playing this server trying to compete with people who have the time to grind. The gms should consider some kind of donation for plat program so anyone who has the desire to play and doesn't have the time have an option. This would also help the server pop. I understand this isn't classic, but most of us were kids during classic as well and had the time and energy to grind.
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Old 03-24-2014, 02:27 PM
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What the hell are you even talking about? It's a private server, it was probably never intended to be solvent, and I doubt that the admin needs to worry about an "exit".
Let me clarify my comment for you. I was addressing the specific statement Rogean made that implied he stands ready to underwrite all efforts to protect the playing integrity of the game.

Just cause its private doesn't mean that it absolves it of all cost/benefit analysis with respect to addressing things with the EMU other than just running it. Its like a car. You buy a car to get you to and from. But sometimes the costs of maintaining the car exceed expectations or exceed the benefit of paying for a new one.

So my comment was fitting because it pointed out the fact that protecting the integrity of the game will be an ongoing cost associated with running the EMU. And this cost will remain a constant or will even increase.

So my suggestion was that IF and ONLY IF he thinks that he will eliminate the problem then he should run something else. (buy a new car as in the example)

So this whole thing about whether its profitable or intended to be profitable and all that does not address the essence of my post. Everyone has their own threshold of marginal rates of substitution.

Example, So, I rather play EQ than engage real life activity. There are no profits, but I assign value to every incremental minute I spend my time on them differently. Every extra minute spent on the game is less time spent in real life activity, thus I place higher value on the game rather than real life time. But if my time is valuable or my productivity level is high and I get paid alot of money, then every incremental minute playing the game is costing me a lot of money.

So again, it is fitting here because it seems obvious in this case that the "RMT" issue is one they are spending more and more resources to address.

The fact that the GM is willing to give up his own money to protect the integrity of the server sends a "signal" (in the game theory sense) to RMT offenders that money is NOT a constraint with respect to ensuring RMT rules are enforced. My argument is that while it is a signal, the crowd will test him anyway and call his bluff till the end.
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