New map desktop app coming soon (as long as it's still kosher with p99 rules) - Page 13

nonphixion · #**121** 05-02-2014, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by no chewie dont [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not classic

doesnt take a genius to see the problem

HawkMasterson1999 · #**122** 05-02-2014, 10:45 AM

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Please explain why it is worse on red than blue. It's not like this tells you where everyone else is.

People are going to copy this app and tweak there own versions to be guild only or invite only. Spies, moles and hackers are going intercept the data from these private map app networks and use it to their advantage. Is it so hard to imagine how knowing this info in real time will give an advantage? Even just knowing the position of your allies is an advantage.

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I hope they disable logging soon
this shit makes me sick

This guy gets it. More log progs are coming but they won't be advertised in the forums. Disabling /log would be a small sacrifice to uphold the integrity of the server (we should at least try. I know the server is not pure)

Supaskillz · #**123** 05-02-2014, 11:18 AM

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People are going to copy this app and tweak there own versions to be guild only or invite only. Spies, moles and hackers are going intercept the data from these private map app networks and use it to their advantage. Is it so hard to imagine how knowing this info in real time will give an advantage? Even just knowing the position of your allies is an advantage.

This guy gets it. More log progs are coming but they won't be advertised in the forums. Disabling /log would be a small sacrifice to uphold the integrity of the server (we should at least try. I know the server is not pure)

I have mixed feelings about this program, but your tin foil hat is impressive sir. I guess I wasn't aware that the 60 people who raid on red were were hackers and moles. If your guild thinks the other guilds cyber espionage team is strong you could resort to tactics like not using this app. Perhaps you could all learn a Native American language so your vent is safe also.

I would be ok with blocking locs being recorded in logs, but need to work on a solution to the voice chat program plague.

HawkMasterson1999 · #**124** 05-02-2014, 11:28 AM

Tin foil hat? Thats a throw away line thats getting tired. What i described is about the same as saying "you see that dog over there? he's gonna chase that cat" Is that some kind conspiracy theory? No, its called a tropism. Its the nature of things.

Is it a conspiracy theory that people who play eq tend to have knowledge of programming? No, this thread itself is proof of that. Plenty of people have been busted for hacking already so why is it some kind of paranoid delusion to suggest that people are still at it.

Do guilds infiltrate eachother with spies and moles? Yes. This is a fact, not a theory. Its not much of a leap to think that they might employ their programming skills to do so.

webrunner5 · #**125** 05-02-2014, 11:32 AM

This is great stuff. Thanks to the OP for all the work. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

HawkMasterson1999 · #**126** 05-02-2014, 11:36 AM

I don't take kindly to being called a tin foil hatter but the rest of what you said is pretty good. Even though it was sarcastic I like the wind talker idea. lol

Devs can't really do anything about VOIP as much as i wish they could but they can put a stop to this if they really want to.

Ziggy · #**127** 05-02-2014, 11:40 AM

So, how long until the actual in-game map is just turned back on? I mean, it literally does exactally the same thing as this 'app'.

myriverse · #**128** 05-02-2014, 12:46 PM

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So, how long until the actual in-game map is just turned back on? I mean, it literally does exactally the same thing as this 'app'.

3 years per expansion.
Map is 3 expansions past Velious.

ETA: 2025. Or, ya know, never.

Ziggy · #**129** 05-02-2014, 12:54 PM

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3 years per expansion.
Map is 3 expansions past Velious.

ETA: 2025. Or, ya know, never.

Actually, the map came out with the new UI in Luclin, which, ya know, the server uses.

Ziggy · #**130** 05-02-2014, 12:56 PM

Its ridiculous the extent that this server will try to maintain something that is classic but so clearly broken and bad for the game. p99 uses the titanium client which includes all these things but instead we break things on purpose so that we can have a parser do the exact same thing? We are years beyond the classic timeline, YEARS. Why are we trying to make this game into some unattainable classic thing instead of just making it as good as it could be.