Really Getsome and IB ?

[Joyelle]

Originally Posted by Fael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What amazes me is that they--and taken too--had over 5 minutes to make the correct decision--a decision they have proven they can make in a split second. Instead, as it turns out, 5 minutes is the perfect amount of time needed for two p99 guilds to collaborate and drum up a misguided justification for doing what they knew was wrong, without broadcasting their intent before hand, and under the most illogical of pretexts.

Hate to break it to you but Taken did not in any way engage that mob. Stop trying to drag Taken into this as though we "collaborated" with IB to take out your Fay. We stood back and watched IB kill it. Our only role in this is as witnesses who could corroborate through logs that the puller was not tagged one minute then tagged the next.

In my personal opinion, as long as it is proven that you guys didn't have more than 2 reps (guilded or unguilded) on the spawn at the time of FTE, it doesn't make a difference to me. It caused some confusion sure but we all learned from that experience and know what to do the next time something like this comes up.

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Joyelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hate to break it to you but Taken did not in any way engage that mob. Stop trying to drag Taken into this as though we "collaborated" with IB to take out your Fay. We stood back and watched IB kill it. Our only role in this is as witnesses who could corroborate through logs that the puller was not tagged one minute then tagged the next.

In my personal opinion, as long as it is proven that you guys didn't have more than 2 reps (guilded or unguilded) on the spawn at the time of FTE, it doesn't make a difference to me. It caused some confusion sure but we all learned from that experience and know what to do the next time something like this comes up.

Originally Posted by willestargell [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Taken was also present. We submitted a petition and logs in support. We agree with the IB position that FTE by a non-tagged alt is BS. The puller then was guild tagged mid-pull, died, and there's no way to know who might have gotten FTE after in such a situation. We felt at the time that it was a "trap" intended to get others in trouble.

Taken agrees that TMO should be excluded from this loot. Taken and IB are in agreement as to what disposition of the loot should be. (currently the loot is in IB's hands but we will split when a transfer is available, as one of their groups got the exp and looted)

[Lazie]

That wraps up that argument.

[Joyelle]

Thanks for quoting that so I could read it again Cecily! Please show me where it says we helped them kill the mob. All that we did was provide additional logs.

P.S. I will say here that I personally disagree with the whole splitting the loot thing as I believe we should have stayed out of the whole thing, but that still does not change the fact that we only stood back and watched what happened.

[Mezzmur]

Originally Posted by Joyelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thanks for quoting that so I could read it again Cecily! Please show me where it says we helped them kill the mob. All that we did was provide additional logs.

P.S. I will say here that I personally disagree with the whole splitting the loot thing as I believe we should have stayed out of the whole thing, but that still does not change the fact that we only stood back and watched what happened.

Joy for Taken Guild Leader 2014!

[Joyelle]

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That wraps up that argument.

sorry you're not in a position to make that determination

[Fael]

So IB contacted you about splitting the loot after they killed it by themselves?

[Cecily]

Seems plausible.

[Detoxx]

Taken talking in circles here. Arent you guys supposed to just wait in line with your hands out? Why get involved with the big boy stuff?

[sanforce]

Originally Posted by Hitpoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It means TMO would have killed it for Golden. Grats Golden on his loot, which he will promptly give to TMO since he's a member. Instead IB killed Goldens mob, and kept the loot for themselves. It still hasn't been returned.

So where is the loot right now?

It's clear that IB was in the wrong, where is their suspension?

Based off an original Taken post, they also claim partial responsibility and are currently awaiting half of the stolen loot, where is their suspension?

There must be some magical "get outta jail free" cards floating around P1999 right now.