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[Kergan]

Originally Posted by Syft 2.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can't avoid a forum ban here because the rules have been written ambiguously and 90% of the rules are left to GM discretion.

The only rule that can help you avoid a forum ban is...Don't piss off a GM!

That is a chaotic flawed system, based solely on the whims of a human beings emotional status. So there will be no order until GM's decide to conduct themselves in a manner befitting their station.

How order is instilled on MMO's.

1st Offense=You receive a warning of said crime, and punishment.

2nd Offense=You receive a suspension entailing said crime.

3rd Offense=You receive a ban.

If GM's do not adhere to structure and order setting clear guidelines and rules, than those rules cannot be followed or enforced.

It would be like a prison where the criminals are also the guards.

I think they are pretty lenient in general man, honestly. But yeah, if you get on their shit list they will have a quick trigger finger. There are plenty of people with thousands of posts who haven't ate a forum ban though.

[Syft 2.0]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think they are pretty lenient in general man, honestly. But yeah, if you get on their shit list they will have a quick trigger finger. There are plenty of people with thousands of posts who haven't ate a forum ban though.

That's exactly what I'm saying, I could scroll through forum posts all day and see who has knelt over for GM's take a pass to multiple offenses, and see people who have done literally nothing and taken a ban.

Order and Lawfulness is adhere'd to on both sides. If you wish to set up a structured and ordered system then you need to in-doctrine the laws you set forth.

Banning people on a whim is an awful way to put order in place. Checks and Balances should be put in place on both sides.

I don't want to see a player banned because he went nuts on ooc one day. That should be a first offense warning or suspension.

This load of BS that GM's are trying to sell that random banning for minor offenses is warranted is BS!

It's a catch 22 that should be disputed by all players! HTF do we know a paymelinda 2.0 isn't involved. GM's enforcing the rules I have no problem with, but this BS is just an excuse for GM's to personally abuse the rules.

No I don't agree Derub that GM's should be able to click a ban stick on their discretion. Because GM's on this server haven't earned that reputation. I also clicked that terms of service and guess what buddy that's a two way street!

If you want to ban anyone at your discretion...I say NO you shouldnt have that power, just like us you should have to follow a clear and concise guideline as to what crime befits what punishment!

You want us to follow TOS then write it in a matter befitting clear violations and crimes! And enforce those violations with crimes befitting the offense! Don't warn all the players here that you'll ban everyone that says anything you don't like selectively based on your discretion!

Give a clear set of rules that define your meanings, send warning or bans based on rules violated and then your free to judge those who violated them. Otherwise we cannot be expected to adhere to rules you don't understand yourself, or enforce selectively.

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Syft 2.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's exactly what I'm saying, I could scroll through forum posts all day and see who has knelt over for GM's take a pass to multiple offenses, and see people who have done literally nothing and taken a ban.

Order and Lawfulness is adhere'd to on both sides. If you wish to set up a structured and ordered system then you need to in-doctrine the laws you set forth.

Banning people on a whim is an awful way to put order in place. Checks and Balances should be put in place on both sides.

I do't want to see a player banned because he went nuts on ooc one day. That should be a first offense warning or suspension.

This load of BS that GM's are trying to sell that random banning for minor offenses is warranted is BS!

It's a catch 22 that should be disputed by all players! HTF do we know a paymelinda 2.0 isn't involved. GM's enforcing the rules I have no problem with, but this BS is just an excuse for GM's to personally abuse the rules.

No I don't agree Derub that GM's should be able to click a ban stick on their discretion. Because GM's on this server haven't earned that reputation. I also clicked that terms of service and guess what buddy that's a two way street!

If you want to ban anyone at your discretion...I say NO you shouldnt have that power, just like us you should have to follow a clear and concise guideline as to what crime befits what punishment!

You want us to follow TOS then write it in a matter befitting clear violations and crimes! And enforce those violations with crimes befitting the offense! Don't warn all the players here that you'll ban everyone that says anything you don't like selectively based on your discretion!

Give a clear set of rules that define your meanings, send warning or bans based on rules violated and then your free to judge those who violated them. Otherwise we cannot be expected to adhere to rules you don't understand yourself, or enforce selectively.

If you get upset when people that run the server have the ability to choose who gets banned you are going to have a bad time.

[|3igHurb]

Agatha's Rant still in Server Chat.

Favoritism and Hypocrisy = Rules worthless = penis war

[|3igHurb]

Originally Posted by |3igHurb [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Agatha's Rant still in Server Chat.

Favoritism and Hypocrisy = Rules worthless = penis war

[Musetii]

Rated 1 star for lack of follow thru from staff.

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Musetii [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rated 1 star for lack of follow thru from staff.

Wait till Kurt Rustle shows up in here.

I think he said something about "don't test me". Huh.

[Tassador]

Excatly

[Uuruk]

Syft mad he broke the rules and got banned.

[Musetii]

Rip. Was a good try and an even better read.