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Old 06-18-2015, 02:45 PM
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IMO better to get the negotiations right the first time. In my experience with negotiations, "status quo" is often a hard starting point to move from.
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Old 06-18-2015, 03:05 PM
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IMO better to get the negotiations right the first time. In my experience with negotiations, "status quo" is often a hard starting point to move from.
This conversation shouldn't even involve the word 'negotiations'. If Forsaken is in fact presenting themselves as a newly formed guild then they shouldn't be utilizing past TMO negotiations and tenure as leverage for procuring a Sky slot. All reference to past TMO-related conversations, tenure, etc. should be null.

Every guild here has worked together to occupy the slots in a relatively amicable manner. Forsaken should get to the back of the line (like everyone else has) and be happy with what's been presented to them. This is a player-enforced schedule and the only players being unreasonable are from a new guild.

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Old 06-18-2015, 03:19 PM
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This conversation shouldn't even involve the word 'negotiations'. If Forsaken is in fact presenting themselves as a newly formed guild then they shouldn't be utilizing past TMO negotiations and tenure as leverage for procuring a Sky slot. All reference to past TMO-related conversations, tenure, etc. should be null.

Every guild here has worked together to occupy the slots in a relatively amicable manner. Forsaken should get to the back of the line (like everyone else has) and be happy with what's been presented to them. This is a player-enforced schedule and the only players being unreasonable are from a new guild.

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Where was all this support that they are a new guild when they got suspended? So they should b suspended because they are NOT a new guild like GM stated, but at the same time they should lose thier slot because they are a new guild now. You trolls are funny say one thing in one tread and say the opposite in the other thread. Either they are a new guild and should have not been suspended but lost slot, or they are NOT a new guild and should have been suspended but retained slot. You trolls cant have it both ways that they get suspended and lose slot.
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Old 06-18-2015, 02:46 PM
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Could the leader of anonymous pm me to work out an agreement for noble on the Saturday slot they just entered into.
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Old 06-18-2015, 03:34 PM
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And, just on a second thought - HK is in the middle of a learning curve with sky and taking longer to clear the AM slot making it difficult for anyone in the PM slot.

Kinda like in golf - if you're the slow golfer, let the guys behind you play through.
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Old 06-18-2015, 04:20 PM
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Old 06-18-2015, 04:37 PM
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If you give a mouse a cookie....
a lizard later eats a slightly more plump than before mouse?

"ok ok sorry for thread derail- back on topic"

If HK doesnt do bees it makes more sense for Forsaken to have the AM slot as then everything will be up avail in the evening for HK.

If both guilds did bees then a rotation would need to be worked out and its usually the PM slot that would suffer - so the AM slot in this situation is usually preferred unless the guild base is very PST/Euro/Late night
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Old 06-18-2015, 05:15 PM
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"ok ok sorry for thread derail- back on topic"

If HK doesnt do bees it makes more sense for Forsaken to have the AM slot as then everything will be up avail in the evening for HK.

If both guilds did bees then a rotation would need to be worked out and its usually the PM slot that would suffer - so the AM slot in this situation is usually preferred unless the guild base is very PST/Euro/Late night
This was the point I have been trying to stress. I don't think they got past isle 3 last week, and I know the bees were left up. I'm not sure if they are capable of killing bees, but I know we can. It doesn't seem fair that a guild who hasn't shown they can clear sky is barking the orders here all while pushing us in a corner with the whole "new guild or not?" Idle threats.
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Old 06-18-2015, 04:44 PM
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I have sent PM's to Ella and we are going to attempt to work on something that works out for both of the guilds. Will post back once the talks have been completed.
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Old 06-18-2015, 05:02 PM
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It is extremely unfair to hold this "new guild" thing over our heads just because it benefits you this time. You guys didn't even clear past isle 3 last week. Forsaken can go there in the morning and clear all of sky within 3 hours. This allows for 2 full clears on Sunday.

Koryu sent my officers messages demanding the slot and being overall rude about it. That kind of attitude makes it difficult to work with someone
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