Wizards! Do you regret it?

[soup]

Originally Posted by RiffDaemon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I understand where Zura's coming from. I don't get to play very much - like, hardly at all. When I get a spare two hours to do something, I'd like to spend that time advancing (i.e. grinding) if at all possible. When I run around SoW'ing everyone, my manatank is on empty by the time I get where I want to be. Then, I have to wait for it all to come back, buff myself to Hell, and wait for it all to come back again before I can start killing anything. So, I end up spending most of my time sitting down and staring at my spellbook .. figuratively speaking, of course.

However, my character is a mushy teddy-bear of a troll who loves to help everyone whenever possible, and that's part of my enjoyment of playing the game. Hell, I ran from the farside of the pit in OT all the way to Skyfire to give someone a SoW, and I ended up dying from a high-level tiger that spawned on top of me, losing almost half an orange of xp in the process. That sucked, and it sure wasn't an efficient use of my time; but, I'll do it again and again if someone asks.

I don't expect that out of everyone; that's MY personal code. Zura has his own code and his own expectations, and that sounds perfectly fine to me.

"Personal code" crap aside, what I took issue with wasn't the reluctance to freely SOW people, but rather the fact that he seems to think it's "flat-out rude to ask for a buff without offering something in return." If someone thinks it's rude when someone politely asks for something without offering a BJ in return, the person who thinks it's rude has got be one pretentious fucker.

[Bodeanicus]

So, the guy's a dick. So what? Don't group with him, and don't buff him. Ever. His attitude will change real quick. End of problem.

[RiffDaemon]

Originally Posted by soup [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If someone thinks it's rude when someone politely asks for something without offering a BJ in return, the person who thinks it's rude has got be one pretentious fucker.

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[Skope]

It can be a pain in the ass getting tells for buffs, speaking as a shaman. When not /role I get tells in whichever zone I'm in, regardless of what camp i'm holding and where with people asking for buffages. It may not be a big deal when you're right next to a person or you're sitting there practically afk with nothing to do, but it's often when you're soloing or grouping and mana and clearing a camp is an issue. If it's just an SoW then sure, but sometimes it's the full shibang. I don't accept tips for buffs, but if you're taking me out of my groove just so i have to sit there for another 2-3 minutes while you get to solo my mobs with that regrowth that I just gave you then don't be surprised if i decline the tip and tell you to go away.

[ryandward]

Yes, I regret it. Mostly because they aren't set up the way they should be, under the guise of being "classic". There are some design flaws, but that is the way the devs think they should be, which is totally dumb to me.

Wizards *NEED* crits, and harvest. Give us those, I will be happy.

A very simple fix; although not classic or ever implemented, would be this:

Make it like warriors except with mana; when you are really low on mana you get a chance to land a crippling blow too.

[Galanteer]

yea I have had people come up to my camp, while i am in combat, and open a trade window with a few pp expecting me to buff them...not asking, nothing.

other times I have been trained by someone so desperate for their buff that the endangered or killed my group (again not asking, I would have said don't come)

I could come up with hundreds of examples of this, so yea I understand the attitude of reluctance to buff.

Now my 'credo' in game has been to depend on the group/guild I am with. I won't /ooc looking for xyz nor will I send a tell to a stranger asking for something.

This is not to say I don't appreciate random buffs, and also I will spend time and energy randomly buffing people when the mood stikes.

Personally, if I am in a group adventuring somewhere and random soandso sends me a tell asking for xyz, I just ignore it.

Back to the original topic -to me a good player of whatever class has room in a group, back in classic/live wizards often filled the important roll of evac/snare where dungeon groups needed 4 basic things -tank, healer, crowd control and snare. On this version the snare isn't required so wiz are even less needed.
A few wizards really shined back in classic, and would never hesitate to invite them to a group.

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by ryandward [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wizards *NEED* crits, and harvest. Give us those, I will be happy.

Your original statement was something like "give me crits and harvest and im happy", but you added "needs" so i'll respond.

Crits and harvest would barely make a scratch in the wizard class overall, nor do they "NEED" them. It would be nice, but it definitely isn't a need.

[ryandward]

Originally Posted by Messianic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your original statement was something like "give me crits and harvest and im happy", but you added "needs" so i'll respond.

Crits and harvest would barely make a scratch in the wizard class overall, nor do they "NEED" them. It would be nice, but it definitely isn't a need.

They need them, in the sense that it will make us wizards happy, and feel like we have something cool that other classes don't have, and we would probably stop complaining.

[ryandward]

Fizzler on the root

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by soup [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If someone thinks it's rude when someone politely asks for something without offering a BJ in return, the person who thinks it's rude has got be one pretentious fucker.

I never said it had to be extravagant, although I definitely give buffs for BJs if you can fit my cock in your mouth, rather it's a simple matter of asking "Hello, may I please buy XXX buff from you?" instead of "Hello, can you give me XXX buff please?"

Even if you're nice about it, there is a level of disrespect if you don't offer something in return first. Unless you are on friendly terms of course. (roleplaying counts as "offering something" in my book as well -- you're providing entertainment)