Warriors are useless in 90% of the games content

[Snaggles]

It takes a lot of work to run a hybrid out of mana if casting level 9 taunt spells though. Well, maybe SK’s until DC is fixed.

If a cleric is running out of mana in grind situations the rest of the group need to find the god of their choice.

Group xp isn’t difficult. Doesn’t matter what class the tank is.

[magnetaress]

Imagine not grouping with a class that can root. Lol.

Wars truly best.

[Gloomlord]

In 95% of groups I join with a warrior tanking, nobody roots to help the Warrior tank. So, it seems like the overwhelming majority of people in this game are "baddies". I suppose it gets exhausting in a game to constantly root for your tank when you could be doing other things with your mana.

I mean, sure, you could argue if there aren't mobs in camp constantly, then you're doing it wrong. The thing is: that still makes knights better, since they don't need to wait for a lucky proc or a group member rooting. A single Flash from a Paladin, and your Rogue doesn't need to hold back. That increases the kill speed, does it not? Depending on the camp and the DPS, the knights may be able to clear before they deplete their entire mana bar.

You can argue this and that all day about how Warriors are awesome, but they need some serious hand holding in groups and a boatload of platinum. All other classes are self-contained compared to this poorly designed class.

[Ennewi]

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In 95% of groups I join with a warrior tanking, nobody roots to help the Warrior tank. So, it seems like the overwhelming majority of people in this game are "baddies". I suppose it gets exhausting in a game to constantly root for your tank when you could be doing other things with your mana.

I mean, sure, you could argue if there aren't mobs in camp constantly, then you're doing it wrong. The thing is: that still makes knights better, since they don't need to wait for a lucky proc or a group member rooting. A single Flash from a Paladin, and your Rogue doesn't need to hold back. That increases the kill speed, does it not? Depending on the camp and the DPS, the knights may be able to clear before they deplete their entire mana bar.

Arguably this is what gives paladin and ranger the edge, as both have root; even if a better geared, higher level tank joins group, they can transition from tank to puller and use root to keep the target on the warrior if need be, while also providing light cc. Warrior still has role versatility, since it can hover around low health to put out respectable damage with the risk of drawing blood aggro.

[silo32]

If you don't have a bard, ranger, monk etc non stop pulling... with a phat geared war or w/e or having 3-5 classes in your party with root and c2 etc doing work

Lol

Warrior best tank in game

Raid and group

Get better gear, sorry ur war is in banded and not full skyshrine at lvl 40 with will sapper, wave crasher epiz git gud, games old and so are you, it's solved, stop all the bs theory crafting

/Thread repeat add nasume

[Gloomlord]

Well, if you put it that way, why wouldn't I just get a Monk if I didn't care about snap aggro? Excellent DPS and excellent AC. And if the group had C2, that's even more of a reason to get a Paladin or Shadowknight. I can whip out a Narandi's (or better) and go to town with snap aggro. We're still talking about two classes that can take a serious wallop, and have access to gear and utility that can help that tanking in a non-raid situation.

Going to Seb with some horrific casters and runners? Why the damn hell wouldn't I take another stun class just to make absolutely certain it doesn't get a gate off? Why wouldn't I want a class with an on demand snare so it doesn't start running and waste time and start a wipe? You think I'd give a crap about Warrior's extra damage and extra survivability?

[silo32]

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Going to Seb with some horrific casters and runner?

Sounds like most of you play with just mediocre or bad players.

If your in Seb and your chanter isn't using lvl 4 mez to spam interrupt Gates, heals, any bad casts. Looks like skill issues.

Considering your in a xp crawl group if you don't have another class with utility, snare, root, cc lol just lol.

I use to duo all the abc named with a chanter and a mage in shit gear. Let alone a full party that could keep the entire spawn and trash clear with down time.

Games been solved. Lots of baddies out there. With that being said p99 will thrive till people git gud, hard kek

[Gloomlord]

Originally Posted by silo32 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sounds like most of you play with just mediocre or bad players.

If your in Seb and your chanter isn't using lvl 4 mez to spam interrupt Gates, heals, any bad casts. Looks like skill issues.

Considering your in a xp crawl group if you don't have another class with utility, snare, root, cc lol just lol.

I use to duo all the abc named with a chanter and a mage in shit gear. Let alone a full party that could keep the entire spawn and trash clear with down time.

Games been solved. Lots of baddies out there. With that being said p99 will thrive till people git gud, hard kek

But what if I don't have an Enchanter, or the mob level is sufficiently high enough that a resist could go off? There's a reason why multiple people throw in a stun and a bash if they can.

Not everyone is going to have the perfect composition, so why look down upon an SK for having snare?

But if we all really think knights are so unnecessary, then I can just grab a Monk to tank for me. Excellent DPS, AC and evasion, and throw in mend too. Can also FD for those camps where pacify can't be used.

Ya.dingus is right. Why are we still having a discussion about this?

You guys are right about one thing, though: most people are extremely lazy in this game. And that's an additional reason why I'd want a knight in my group: they're idiot-proof.

[Jimjam]

Don’t need snare if you always keep multiple mobs in camp.

[Gloomlord]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don’t need snare if you always keep multiple mobs in camp.

Hold on a moment. A lot of mobs still run at low health, regardless of who is locking incomings down.