Moss covered Twig

[bcbrown]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It depends on the AC of the mob. I already told you Twig can out DPS Addy Club if the AC is high enough multiple times. There is also a bit of extra DPS from the proc.

We can use Ebon Mace instead if you don't like Addy Club.

So is the entirety of your argument that when Zuranthium said:

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Epics didn't exist when Kunark was released and barely anyone had epics before 2001.

Mosscovered Twig was the top DPS weapon in the game, along with Barbed Scale Whip, and both hilariously dropped from low level MOBs in Frontier Mountains. So of course they were changed.

There was one, maybe two weapons that were slighly better but class specific that dropped deep inside the hardest dungeons?

[CrazyPro]

allow me to introduce https://wiki.project1999.com/Bixie_Sword_Blade to this conversation

it was originally a 2/6 ratio

with the main hand damage bonus that's gotta be something

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So is the entirety of your argument that when Zuranthium said:

There was one, maybe two weapons that were slighly better but class specific that dropped deep inside the hardest dungeons?

Zuranthium is incorrect for saying Twig was better than every other 1h weapon. It's that simple. I am not sure why he can't concede on even this point.

[bcbrown]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Zuranthium is incorrect for saying Twig was better than every other 1h weapon. It's that simple. I am not sure why he can't concede on even this point.

And you have no historical evidence that he is wrong? No parses, no forum posts from that era?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And you have no historical evidence that he is wrong? No parses, no forum posts from that era?

Yes, the EQEMU code. It was built by multiple smart programmers backwards engineering the game over the years. They already have code for emulating Classic to Velious as well that isn't P99 specific.

I trust the EQEMU folks more than random parses honestly.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, the EQEMU code. It was built by multiple smart programmers backwards engineering the game over the years. They already have code for emulating Classic to Velious as well that isn't P99 specific.

I trust the EQEMU folks more than random parses honestly.

I'm pretty sure by "EQEMU code" he means his derpiest calculator. He's trying to misdirect you because he knows better than to mention that piece of shit any more.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm pretty sure by "EQEMU code" he means his derpiest calculator. He's trying to misdirect you because he knows better than to mention that piece of shit any more.

My dps calc uses the eqemu code.

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Zuranthium is incorrect for saying Twig was better than every other 1h weapon.

No I'm not. YOU are wrong about how damage was calculated and you are wrong for trying to say Twig didn't do any special amount of damage. It absolutely did.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I trust the EQEMU folks more than random parses honestly.

"Random parses". There were a lot done back in the day. It was something all informed players came to understand about weapon damage.

Absolute clown behavior to keep trying to ignore in-era data and the hundreds of people who were writing on forums about it back then.

The base EQEMU code was built based on Planes of Power era, you donkey.

Originally Posted by CrazyPro [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

allow me to introduce https://wiki.project1999.com/Bixie_Sword_Blade to this conversation

it was originally a 2/6 ratio

with the main hand damage bonus that's gotta be something

A good weapon but worse than Twig/Whip because attack speed was capped at .5 delay - attacks never went any faster than that. SK's and Paladins can't dual wield either.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No I'm not. YOU are wrong about how damage was calculated and you are wrong for trying to say Twig didn't do any special amount of damage. It absolutely did.



"Random parses". There were a lot done back in the day. It was something all informed players came to understand about weapon damage.

Absolute clown behavior to keep trying to ignore in-era data and the hundreds of people who were writing on forums about it back then.

The base EQEMU code was built based on Planes of Power era, you donkey.



A good weapon but worse than Twig/Whip because attack speed was capped at .5 delay - attacks never went any faster than that. SK's and Paladins can't dual wield either.

Even informed players do bad parses. I'll trust the EQEMU over parses from a time when the internet was not very good at recording things. There are many myths and disputes from back then.

[Zuranthium]

What are you talking about recording things? It was concrete game data.

And we all saw with our own eyes back then. Melee players with those weapons killed faster than with anything else.

There are no "EQEMU parses." Their code is based on Planes of Power EQ. Not Kunark EQ.