Comparison of melee hybrid classes.

[Graym]

I've never let anyone play any of my accounts ever since that retard played Graym. I can't count how many stupid stories I've heard from people who think they killed me. I guess it didn't help that Graym was one of the most hated players on the server when I gave the account over to this retard. Quite a few of these players had been trying to kill me for a long, long time so I guess I can kind of understand how their lasting memory of me is a fight with this apparent retard and not the myriad of times I killed them.

However, it's just kind of funny to me that the people I routinely killed are usually the ones who have this vivid memory of killing Graym and this retard saying something really stupid before he dies. There was a Mercenaries of Darkness group that I used to kill all the time and always fought them 1 on 4/5. Never once died to them, but in the VZ thread from the VZTZ forums they posted how not only did they kill me in CT but that I was begging in OOC for them not to cause me an XP death like that's something I would do. Completely ignoring the fact I routinely killed these guys by myself against their whole group and that's completely forgotten, all they remember is what that retard did in CT.

I guess for people who routinely died it's good to have a selective memory and I bet most of these people think they finally got me, perseverance paid off! The triumph of finally killing Graym, yay!

[Jong]

Rangers suck unless you get mistwalker, dragon haste and plane of sky bow

[Titanuk]

Originally Posted by Jong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rangers suck unless you get mistwalker, dragon haste and plane of sky bow

even then they still suck

[Tarwine]

Paladin or bust

[Titanuk]

i should of ninja'd that cloak

[Bockscar]

Rangers are okay and nicely self-sufficient, but they don't do any particular thing well enough to shine in any given role. This goes for both PvE and PvP. Whatever your crew is trying to do, a ranger adds less towards that goal than one or more other classes could. If you just run around picking 1v1 fights, ranger is alright. The fights that mean something rarely have any need for a ranger, because they tend to take place in dungeons where rogues and monks are better, or they're large group battles where the ranger's utility isn't needed because most classes are there and can do it better. Rangers only shine with Graym's apparent playstyle: running around selectively picking 1v1 fights on his terms against sub-par players.

[Tarwine]

Originally Posted by Titanuk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i should of ninja'd that cloak

You are a true White Knight sir.

[Scribbles]

Originally Posted by tmoneynegro [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

dude, are you stupid

Mippo (ie:graym) doesn't = wehrmacht

You would need full blown down syndrome to believe that.

With both people online at the same time, both playing rangers, that's a hell of a conspiracy theory to 2box rangers.

While I know they aren't the same people irl, they are literally the exact same person

[Graym]

Originally Posted by Bockscar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rangers are okay and nicely self-sufficient, but they don't do any particular thing well enough to shine in any given role. This goes for both PvE and PvP. Whatever your crew is trying to do, a ranger adds less towards that goal than one or more other classes could. If you just run around picking 1v1 fights, ranger is alright. The fights that mean something rarely have any need for a ranger, because they tend to take place in dungeons where rogues and monks are better, or they're large group battles where the ranger's utility isn't needed because most classes are there and can do it better. Rangers only shine with Graym's apparent playstyle: running around selectively picking 1v1 fights on his terms against sub-par players.

This is absolutely ridiculous. In most of our guild PVP, myself and Aaliyl usually accounted for about 30-40% of the killshots BECAUSE of tracking. As I said, ghosting was a big problem back in the day. The servers tried to predict where your player would be and a lot of times, with fast movements, that was different then where your character actually was so to everyone else your character would run off into space until it updated. Rangers with tracking never had that problem because even if someone ghosted, the tracking would point to the right direction so while other melee would get lost, the Rangers were usually the first ones to get back on the target. As well, while the character is running they could shoot their bow and do more effective damage then other classes. In old school PVP it wasn't as powerful as it was in Luclin with AA's, but it still did damage.

Now, it's probably not how it works here as I doubt ghosting will be anywhere near as big a problem as it was on Live and tracking probably won't be nearly as big an advantage because, I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of people playing here will be cheating like they were on VZTZ, but claiming that Rangers were a one trick pony is ridiculous. Backup healing, and being able to Snare was simply an added bonus. Yes, Rangers excelled at outdoors one on one PVP, but they were also good at guild on guild PVP. In Kunark most hybrids were at the top of the PVP food chain and in Velious basically all of them were.