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Old 09-23-2014, 07:19 PM
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Like Global Warming where they've been caught over and over fudging data?

Or like Piltdown Man and other Evolution Hoaxes?
Oh look he's a climate change denier too. Why am I not surprised?
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Old 09-23-2014, 07:20 PM
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When I started out, it wasn't me looking for design. I started by just observing all of the things taking place. Orbit of the planets, cells and building blocks of life, physics and all of the natural laws, you name it. Countless months just contemplating questions that came to mind after observing the world in which we live.

After a while I started to look at how perfect it all was. While I don't believe anyone can perfectly calculate the odds of all of these laws, all of these coincidences, I know that the odds are ridiculous. When I think about the probability of all of these things just happening by chance, I rule that as impossible. When I removed the impossible, what remains is the truth (in my mind of course).

When I came to the conclusion that a creator of some sort must exist then I started going back to revisit the various religions. Could any of them have any truth? Keep in mind the first 3 decades of my life said absolutely not. I'm currently a Christian - probably a toddler, maybe even an infant in my faith. If I'm unable to reconcile some of my current struggles with the faith then I'll move on and look at other religions for answers.
You have just described the model of critical thinking.
I applaud you.
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Old 09-23-2014, 07:21 PM
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This post is backed up by 170 years of peer-reviewed scientific research? Dannnnnnnnnnggggggggggggggggg!!!!!!!!!!
Technically longer. Science wasn't invented in the days of Darwin. I'm only concentrating on the immediately relevant research to this specific sub-topic.
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Old 09-23-2014, 07:21 PM
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You have just described the model of non-thinking.
I applaud you.
Fixed.
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Spontaneous generation - is a principle regarding the origin of life from inanimate matter, which held that this process was a commonplace and everyday occurrence, as distinguished from univocal generation, or reproduction from parent(s). Falsified by an elegant experiment by Louis Pasteur—where apparently spontaneous generation of microorganisms occurred, it did not happen on repeating the process without access to unfiltered air; on then opening the apparatus to the atmosphere, bacterial growth started.

Transmutation of species, Lamarckism, inheritance of acquired characteristics - first theories of evolution. Not supported by experiment, and rendered obsolete by Darwinian evolution, Mendelian genetics and epigenetics (although some elements of Lamarckian evolution are coming back in the area of epigenetics).

Mendelian genetics, classical genetics, Boveri–Sutton chromosome theory - first genetical theories. Not invalidated as such, but subsumed into molecular genetics.

Maternal impression – the theory that the mother's thoughts created birth defects. No experimental support (a notion rather than a theory), and rendered obsolete by genetic theory (see also fetal origins of adult disease, genomic imprinting)

Miasma theory of disease – the theory that diseases are caused by "bad air". No experimental support, and rendered obsolete by the germ theory of disease.

Preformationism – the theory that all organisms have existed since the beginning of life, and that gametes contain a miniature but complete preformed individual. No support when microscopy became available. Rendered obsolete by cytology, discovery of DNA, and atomic theory.

Recapitulation theory – the theory that "ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny". See Baer's laws of embryology.

Telegony – the theory that an offspring can inherit characteristics from a previous mate of its mother's as well as its actual parents, often associated with racism.

Vitalism – the theory that living things are alive because of some "vital force" independent of nonliving matter, as opposed to because of some appropriate assembly of nonliving matter. It was gradually discredited by the rise of organic chemistry, biochemistry, and molecular biology, fields that failed to discover any "vital force". Friedrich Wöhler's synthesis of urea from ammonium cyanate was only one step in a long road, not a great refutation.

Out of Asia theory of human origin – The majority view is of a recent African origin of modern humans, although a multiregional origin of modern humans hypothesis has much support (which incorporates past evidence of Asian origins)

Caloric theory - the theory that a self-repelling fluid called "caloric" was the substance of heat. Rendered obsolete by the mechanical theory of heat.

Classical elements - All matter was once thought to be composed of various combinations of classical elements (most famously air, earth, fire, and water). This was finally refuted by Antoine Lavoisier's publication of Elements of Chemistry, which contained the first modern list of chemical elements, in 1789.

Omg getting tired of copy and paste. So much peer-reviewed stuff that was proven false later. What you really are saying is until proven otherwise, we must accept it. Peer-reviewed or not.
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*****s postin in a troll thread btw
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just that it's not intellectually honest or a sound and rational conclusion to reach.

*just that ruling it out is not intellectually honest or a sound and rational conclusion to reach.
But that's part of the scientific method
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Old 09-23-2014, 07:22 PM
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for the record kaga is right about most of whats going on here, though i havent read any of the posts on this shit thread.
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Old 09-23-2014, 07:23 PM
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Fixed.
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Old 09-23-2014, 07:23 PM
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I bet i know his stance on gay marriage
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