ASOIAF / Game of Thrones (SPOILERS INSIDE)

[Mandalore93]

The only thing I agree with you on is that sending Theon to Balon was an all around stupid idea and is basically the only thing that Catelyn is ever right about.

It's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't in this case. Sending anyone other than the head of the lordly house would most like be seen as a huge slight. His other lords are hot heads, Roose is chosen for his cool head. At the time of ACOK, Bolton has as far as everyone knows loyally served the Starks through two generations and three wars. His methodology is surely a bit different than others, but that's honestly what makes him a valued commander in this case. We don't even know for certain that Bolton was purposefully trying to weaken the Stark cause from the start, it just seems like it. Greatjon would have been the utterly worst choice. I think Karstark would have been the best choice. Remember, at this point his sons haven't been killed and he's no fool.

Also, I'm not 100% sure on this, but I'm pretty sure the majority of the Frey host marches with Robb to Riverrun.

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

and Robb should've been smart enough to know that.

what has Robb ever done that shows u he had a single brain cell? every decision he made was wrong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what has Robb ever done that shows u he had a single brain cell? every decision he made was wrong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nothing. That's my point... He should've been smarter. Alas, he wasn't

[Sidelle]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what has Robb ever done that shows u he had a single brain cell? every decision he made was wrong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nothing. That's my point... He should've been smarter. Alas, he wasn't

Eeyup... Robb is one if my biggest disappointments in ASOIAF. Before I ever read about the Red Wedding and learned his fate, I can definitely remember facepalming at his decisions about the Westerling girl and the Karstarks. It was so glaringly obvious after that things were gonna get ugly with Walder Frey. Crabby old fucks like him, who are known for their history as being an unreliable assholes, do not just accept the kind of insult that Robb dished out when he ultimately rejected the Frey girl.

I remember thinking: Why the hell did he do that!? A son of Ned Stark should have known better. He was raised by the most honorable man in the seven kingdoms, for fucks sake.

Anyway, I'm back to catch up on this thread now. I've been immersed in the Outlander series, re-reading them again and watching the show's first season [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]. I think recently someone here (Sirken maybe?) mentioned that someone was cast for the role of the Westerling girl for future episodes of GoT. My interest is piqued so I guess I'll be looking for some info about that.

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[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Sidelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think recently someone here (Sirken maybe?) mentioned that someone was cast for the role of the Westerling girl for future episodes of GoT. My interest is piqued so I guess I'll be looking for some info about that.
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i swear i can trace every problem in my life to a woman. i could have warned robb and saved his life. and also, was not Sirken that told u that. afaik they merged the westerling girl into talisa and killed her at the RW to kill the theories about Rob possibly still having an heir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Sirken]

Edmure's people do not question Edmure or ask him if those are Robbs orders. they follow chain of command no questions asked. thats what soldiers do and have always done.

i truely dont think Robb was aware of all the consequences of his actions. as you say, he was a dumb boy, and he grew up with a father that idolized "honor". and so Robb, interpreted "honor" in his stupid 16 yr old way, and , well, RIP.

in winterfell it is said that 50 men can hold off 5000 men. it was built as a defensive structure for protecting itself from outsiders.

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[Aenor]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Edmure's people do not question Edmure or ask him if those are Robbs orders. they follow chain of command no questions asked. thats what soldiers do and have always done.

i truely dont think Robb was aware of all the consequences of his actions. as you say, he was a dumb boy, and he grew up with a father that idolized "honor". and so Robb, interpreted "honor" in his stupid 16 yr old way, and , well, RIP.

in winterfell it is said that 50 men can hold off 5000 men. it was built as a defensive structure for protecting itself from outsiders.

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Not Edmure's men at the Twins. Rob left men there before Riverrun was freed. And Theon didn't have 50 men :P

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Aenor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not Edmure's men at the Twins. Rob left men there before Riverrun was freed. And Theon didn't have 50 men :P

Edmure was the ranking man there. who else was there that out ranked Edmure or rather was left to direct those men. soldiers are sheep, they require a shepherd.

theon didnt need 50 men, that's the entire point of the saying. its not a literal translation, its an expression that was born out of how easy it is for a small amount of people to hold winterfell against a much larger host.

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[Sidelle]

^^LOL