Solutions to the Tunnel Trainer.

[Dantes]

Is there a way to just fix faction with Rinna? Hell, if I could do that I would just stand around and be a decoy.

[Itchybottom]

Originally Posted by Dantes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is there a way to just fix faction with Rinna? Hell, if I could do that I would just stand around and be a decoy.

She's Qeynos factions -- Priests of Life. Gnolls, then gold and bone chips to Lashun Novashine would do it.

[Cribanox]

sit outside tunnel?

[Blingx]

Doable?
Trainer A aggros Guard/Rinna/Merchants.
Trainer A runs to tunnel/random evil aligned character.
Trainer A dies.
Guard/Rinna/Merchants warp back to spawn spots.
Total deaths: 1
Happy Campers: ##

Once hatelist is empty they warp to their huts/spawn spots.
Would prevent collateral damage but still allow the functionality of the guards to aggro onto evil characters that run too close to them.
Just beware who you buff because aggro would transfer that way...

[frefaln]

^ Not only doable, it's been done.

... in EQ2.

I've skimmed most of the posts in this thread and can't stop shaking my head. Presumably hundreds of people were anxious to get into P99 because they were sick of MMOs with safety rails. Now we have this thread where people playing evil toons are complaining because they're having trouble going AFK in a non-evil zone.

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by toddfx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Uhhh...really? People are this stupid?

1) Stop leaving your evil race AFK in the tunnel...
2) Wait for trainers to lose incentive and interest...
3) Win.

Seriously. The zone is enormous. Run 15 seconds north to the grass wall and hide out behind a tree something while you're AFK taking your shit or whatever it is that is so important.

And if you are using an EC trader alt, why in gods name would you make it an evil race? Even if you're selling on your evil main, you have no excuse to be bitching - you are sitting in ENEMY TERRITORY. I would never consider even going AFK in Nektolus or Feerrot or something for the plain and simple fact of being in dangerous enemy territory.

Trains happen - who gives a shit if it is on purpose or not. It happened on live, it's going to happen here, and the fact of the matter is that there is no classic way to prevent it.

Forcing GMs to alter the game or waste their time tracking down and kicking/banning people is just selfish. Learn to be self sufficient for god's sake and just sit somewhere else.

while I agree with this what this post says regarding AFKers, I still think it's fair for a low level of an evil race to be in the tunnel when not AFK (just doing a trade presumably). By the time you find out Rinna's been trained you might already be dead, or not have enough time to run away.

Also, changing the game un-classically to stop the trainers is just stupid. It's not that big of a problem. Let it go and stop whining.

[Swiftsong_Lorekeeper]

Lol 138 posts on this means it has gone on way too long. Get rid of both mobs and be done with it IMO. Problem solved. People getting trained will quit talking about it and everybody else will eventually get over it. I don't have an evil character but I don't think it's right, at the same time what can you do to someone like that on a free to play server? Obviously the main reason Adacab continues is because it causes the players grief which is pretty much the only way to cause the GM's grief directly (or as close as possible to grief). So another solution would be to quit fueling his rebellion and just quit talking about it. Or the server could change the social/trade zone. Or people could just make good alts. Many solutions that we as the community could do to change this ourselves so maybe it should be acted upon.

Note: I agree it shouldn't have to be this way but what do you think McDonalds was thinking when they had to put "Caution: contents may be hot" on a coffee cup?

[Kowie]

Originally Posted by frefaln [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

^ Not only doable, it's been done.

... in EQ2.

I've skimmed most of the posts in this thread and can't stop shaking my head. Presumably hundreds of people were anxious to get into P99 because they were sick of MMOs with safety rails. Now we have this thread where people playing evil toons are complaining because they're having trouble going AFK in a non-evil zone.

stupid. sorry man. theyre not complaining about going afk in a non evil zone, they are complaining about people using game mechanics to train them.

if you want to play that shit go to a pvp server where you can be a jerk and people can be a jerk back to you. its not fair for someone to make a 1 level char just to kill heaps of people with no chance of repercussions.

[frefaln]

Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

while I agree with this what this post says regarding AFKers, I still think it's fair for a low level of an evil race to be in the tunnel when not AFK (just doing a trade presumably).

By "fair" what are you implying, that they're entitled to it? If so, I don't understand where this sense of entitlement (or "expectation of safety" if you prefer that phrase) comes from? But you know what? For the sake of concession I'll play along and say that, sure, everyone's entitled to bliss once inside that sanctuary known as EC tunnel.

That still leaves us with a glaring issue: people found guilty of training are being absolutely crucified, not just by players but by idiots like Cyrius who need to run around with a cape pretending to be the EC Hero. It's amazing to see people here gasping and shrieking "OMG! What kind of sicko intentionally trains other people!?!?!", all the while calling for permanent bans if not the maiming and torturing of the trainer's parents.

Meanwhile, the ills which are quite capable of destroying the integrity of the server — the duping, the preferential treatment, the Devs/GMs being diligent in punishing one person/guild's sins while conveniently turning a blind eye to others — just don't seem to stir up the same passion. Never mind the fact that some players have only been here 2-3 weeks yet somehow have 1 million plat to spread around their alts. Nope, nothing fishy there. Never mind the fact that threads about Wrathful Inquisition's previous exploits in Shards of Dalaya (emphasis on exploit) appear and then get deleted immediately, despite a P99 Dev being its leader. Nope, nothing to see there. But hey! We MUST babysit the EC tunnel, that's pri1 folks!

Face it, folks. The reason players are complaining about training, and the reason the GMs/Devs are so eager to address it, is because it's low-hanging fruit. It's easy. It's a very visible problem, and it's very evident when the training stops. The GMs pat themselves on the back for a job well done, the players think the world's a happy place. Meanwhile, the real issues will slowly continue to rot things out from the inside.

Oh, I forgot... it's all free so we're all just supposed to shut up and worship the Devs and marvel at how they've modified the code of something which emulated other people's work. Let me go find my prayer rug.

[Walabaego]

Lol every single time im on an alt in EC a Train is inc. Everytime.