Variance

[Feniggles]

Originally Posted by Gaanon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think it'd be nice to have PVP that isn't scheduled, everyone with assist keys golem wands, 40 players where people disintegrate etc.

Fuck helping whoever, this PVP is boring, stagnant and it's the only kind we have currently with this system.

I predict 50+ Nihi in Phara Dar room on Sunday at his exact spawn time, wanna take some bets HB?

thats alright just train us again

[heartbrand]

You haven't answered how variance will help small guilds thrive tho. A guild of 20 people won't have the people to track and take advantage of variance.

[Gaanon]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You haven't answered how variance will help small guilds thrive tho. A guild of 20 people won't have the people to track and take advantage of variance.

I wasn't implying it will "help" them. It means you can PVP throughout the day and kill those trackers if you're motivated to get a mob, you can have better odds at different hours, you can respond faster, you can get lucky.

I am saying it opens up a lot more criteria for locking down all content other than showing up at a specific time on the weekend and listening to some french asshole tell you what buttons to press when.

[Supaskillz]

Want to win? Get all the players

[Supreme]

Fucking Saban rule.

Must have variance for the safety of the players to pvp.

[Mac Drettj]

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[R Flair]

On this forum, 1 + 1 does not equal 2.

Forcing guilds to sit and track for raid encounters does not, under any circumstances, beget pvp. More than likely it means 1 guild knows about a spawn with more than enough time to assemble and clear it completely uncontested. It can therefore be assumed that this variance thing is nothing but a complete troll to punish the current top guild instead of competing guilds making the effort to build and contest content the way it was meant to be.

[Mac Drettj]

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[hivemind]

ITT: Nihilum members still arguing that variance will do nothing to change the course of the server. They are too convinced that regardless of whatever changes the staff will implement, Nihilum will come out on top. Not even going to quote people this time since I would literally have to quote half the people in the thread.

TRY TO KEEP IN MIND that if you are in Nihilum, you would likely not prefer a change of no-variance to variance because it would then require more efforts (or, "unnecessary poop socking" as some of your members have so eloquently put it) for your guild to acquire the same amount of loot that you currently do. You see, with the current system there is typically one or one-day worth of mass pvp that dictates roughly an entire week's worth of loot.

So it is very easy to understand why anyone in Nihilum would be opposed to that. You guys frame it with different perspectives, perhaps focusing on Lite's ineptitude as a leader... his inability to recruit people, or lead them, or whatever. But again, this is not about Lite, this is not about Nizzar... this thread is not about Azrael or Nihilum. This thread is about variance and how it will make the server more competitive.

It should be harder for the more dominant guild to remain the dominant guild. It should require more effort for the dominant guild to acquire as much loot as they are, and a variance system will undoubtedly deliver on these two fronts. No one is saying that with a variance system Nihilum won't still be top... you all are convinced of it so I really have a hard time seeing why you are so against variance. (Not really--it really just represents your uncertainty that you will still be able to be so dominant after a massive change like variance).

More competition is more fun. Don't be so scared about changes that might usurp some of the power away... And let me remind everyone once again about how desperate ALL of you are for a third guild. Never going to happen without variance.

And if I hear Heartbrand start QQ'ing one more time about how his guild fell apart because of a lack of constant simulated repops, I'll name my morning dump after him. Guy is about as delusional as the rest of the posters in this thread.

[Buhbuh]

The reality is that these types of guilds have always emerged and controlled the majority of raid mobs in Everquest. It's true for almost every single server.

This is absolutely about Nihilum and Azrael. You're asking for variance based on the strength of a current guild on the server. How is that not about about guilds on the server?

I told you, do not go this route.

How do you not see that most of these posts stem from Azrael players and their inability to contest in a meaningful way?

I think you're the only one not clearly in Azrael requesting variance, and you're a brand new lvl 24 bard or some shit (yes, that discredits you).

Stasis, you're a joke here. Dacbane's disease.