Michael Brown

[Byrjun]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, the news coverage of this incident is pretty scary stuff.

The news footage is pretty docile compared to what some of the amateur on-the-ground journalists are producing. I've been watching Tim Pool's coverage every night and it feels like something straight out of a dystopian shaky cam film. Except the fact that it is real.

He should be streaming soon. https://twitter.com/timcast

I Am Mike Brown is currently live @ http://new.livestream.com/accounts/9...events/3271930 (some of the interviews here are a bit biased)

I recommend checking out Tim Pool when he starts his stream up. He really shows what it's like to be down there right now; in the past couple nights alone he's had to escape fields of tear gas, run to his vehicle to escape sudden surges of violence, dodge bullets and Molotov cocktails, and just deal with general chaos.

My opinion on the actual shooting is worthless because it's affected by my personal bias. However, the other side of the story here is how quickly and effectively a community is able to be turned into a police state. This could happen anywhere, for any reason. Over the past few nights I've seen a child have her leg broken by a rubber bullet, a cop point their gun at a journalist and tell them to "get the fuck away," and all kinds of other scary shit. I only wish that people would look past the actual shooting (not enough information yet, if you think anyone was innocent it's due to bias), racism, and other obvious issues being brought up, and examine the situation in its entirety.

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Originally Posted by Byrjun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My opinion on the actual shooting is worthless because it's affected by my personal bias. However, the other side of the story here is how quickly and effectively a community is able to be turned into a police state. This could happen anywhere, for any reason. Over the past few nights I've seen a child have her leg broken by a rubber bullet, a cop point their gun at a journalist and tell them to "get the fuck away," and all kinds of other scary shit. I only wish that people would look past the actual shooting (not enough information yet, if you think anyone was innocent it's due to bias), racism, and other obvious issues being brought up, and examine the situation in its entirety.

This is a point that John Oliver brings up pretty well: how quickly and easily it is for the police to essentially declare quasi martial law with military grade materiel.

These are trends across the country that I do not like to see. It feels like the grip of the ruling elite is slowly tightening around us.

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Grimjaw [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

only read op so far but ...

6 bullets (2 to the head) to unarmed robber entering in a downward position with arms up aka submitting

please do justify that.

If that's actually what happened, it will be difficult for the defense to justify it.

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Byrjun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

(not enough information yet, if you think anyone was innocent it's due to bias)

Yeah, some weird people have a bias towards the presumption of innocence.

Michael Brown = guilty.
Cop who shot him = guilty.
All the protesters = guilty.
The reporters who show up to report on the protests = guilty.
People sitting at home watching the protests = guilty.
Me talking about people sitting at home watching the protests? Well I'm innocent.

[Ratstomper]

It gets very tiring hearing hyperbole and bias from any and all sides. The few even-keeled views I've seen have been nice to see and help me from going crazy myself (I work in south St. Louis, so everyone is on about it).

Brown stealing cigarillos isn't right, but irrelevant to the shooting. Brown, by what I've heard, probably assaulted a police office in his car. If he had been shot in a scuffle inside a police car, I could call it justified. Shooting an unarmed person who is 30 ft away and no longer being aggressive...I can't see how to justify that.

The sad part is this will (and already has been) leveraged for political agendas on all sides. In the end, a young man is dead, a community is in upheaval and the event will get tossed onto the pile of things people use to justify whatever beliefs they have, regardless of what those beliefs may be. Tragic.

[Byrjun]

Tim Pool is now live at https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=CmqHVKNZkhM

Was just talking to J. Cole.

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Ratstomper [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It gets very tiring hearing hyperbole and bias from any and all sides. The few even-keeled views I've seen have been nice to see and help me from going crazy myself (I work in south St. Louis, so everyone is on about it).

Brown stealing cigarillos isn't right, but irrelevant to the shooting. Brown, by what I've heard, probably assaulted a police office in his car. If he had been shot in a scuffle inside a police car, I could call it justified. Shooting an unarmed person who is 30 ft away and no longer being aggressive...I can't see how to justify that.

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It sounds like perhaps you've already made up your mind as to what happened? How do you know that he was no longer being aggressive? One side of the story states that he was rushing the police officer at the time the officer unloaded into him. If he was running straight for the officer after previously attacking the officer, is the shooting not justified?

[Jib_]

Originally Posted by NegaStoat [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The bullets to the arms, especially the upper locations, were from a frontal facing. Meaning, if his arms were raised above his shoulders they would have hit differently. All hits were done with the arms in a lowered position closer to his waist, ie - probably while in motion.

Nice try though.

dis wut i been sayin tho dis nig tried to play it cool, shhh shh they popo comin up... if he try an get out ima close da dough and u run homie... ahhhhh shit im dead homie knasayin

[Ratstomper]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It sounds like perhaps you've already made up your mind as to what happened? How do you know that he was no longer being aggressive? One side of the story states that he was rushing the police officer at the time the officer unloaded into him. If he was running straight for the officer after previously attacking the officer, is the shooting not justified?

My viewpoint is dictated by what details are verified. Brown running back toward the officer is unverified. Regardless, he was unarmed. Cops have non-lethal ways of bringing people into submission. They also have training to keep cool under duress.

What your saying hinges on the word "if": "IF he was running straight for the officer after attacking the officer...". There are also accounts that Michael had his hands up and have given up. When you run away from someone with a gun, you don't turn around and run back toward them. Not after you've moved 30+ feet away, anyways. That makes no sense.

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