Paris Has Just Been Culturally Enriched

[2pacalypse]

Originally Posted by Estolcles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yay religion of peace.

there is no such thing as a religion of peace. there are only philosophies of peace. Religion by definition is a tool used to maintain the integrity of a cultural hierarchy at all costs - costs including economic backwardness, senseless violence, and the permanent disruption of logical faculties in adherents.

It should not be surprising that when Jews meddle in the affairs of people who share a different religion, those people organize along religious lines. That's how you win wars, or at least endure oppression without your culture being completely supplanted by Zionism. Americans could learn something from that if they weren't too busy being the long knife of Zion.

[Clark]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Terrorism ICM Poll: 20% of British Muslims sympathize with 7/7 bombers

NOP Research: 1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified

People-Press: 31% of Turks support suicide attacks against Westerners in Iraq.

YNet: One third of Palestinians (32%) supported the slaughter of a Jewish family, including the children:

World Public Opinion: 61% of Egyptians approve of attacks on Americans 32% of Indonesians approve of attacks on Americans 41% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on Americans 38% of Moroccans approve of attacks on Americans 83% of Palestinians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (only 14% oppose) 62% of Jordanians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (21% oppose) 42% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (45% oppose) A minority of Muslims disagreed entirely with terror attacks on Americans: (Egypt 34%; Indonesia 45%; Pakistan 33%) About half of those opposed to attacking Americans were sympathetic with al-Qaeda’s attitude toward the U.S.

Pew Research (2010): 55% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hezbollah 30% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hezbollah 45% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hezbollah (26% negative) 43% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hezbollah (30% negative)

Pew Research (2010): 60% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hamas (34% negative). 49% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hamas (48% negative) 49% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hamas (25% negative) 39% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hamas (33% negative)

Pew Research (2010): 15% of Indonesians believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified. 34% of Nigerian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified.

16% of young Muslims in Belgium state terrorism is "acceptable".

Populus Poll (2006): 12% of young Muslims in Britain (and 12% overall) believe that suicide attacks against civilians in Britain can be justified. 1 in 4 support suicide attacks against British troops.

Pew Research (2007): 26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified. 35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall). 42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall). 22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall). 29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified.(25% overall).

Pew Research (2011): 8% of Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (81% never). 28% of Egyptian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (38% never).

Pew Research (2007): Muslim-Americans who identify more strongly with their religion are three times more likely to feel that suicide bombings are justified

ICM: 5% of Muslims in Britain tell pollsters they would not report a planned Islamic terror attack to authorities. 27% do not support the deportation of Islamic extremists preaching violence and hate.

Federation of Student Islamic Societies: About 1 in 5 Muslim students in Britain (18%) would not report a fellow Muslim planning a terror attack.

ICM Poll: 25% of British Muslims disagree that a Muslim has an obligation to report terrorists to police.

Populus Poll (2006): 16% of British Muslims believe suicide attacks against Israelis are justified. 37% believe Jews in Britain are a "legitimate target".

Pew Research (2013): At least 1 in 4 Muslims do not reject violence against civilians (study did not distinguish between those who believe it is partially justified and never justified).

Pew Research (2013): 15% of Muslims in Turkey support suicide bombings (also 11% in Kosovo, 26% in Malaysia and 26% in Bangladesh).

PCPO (2014): 89% of Palestinians support Hamas and other terrorists firing rockets at Israeli civilians.

Pew Research (2013): Only 57% of Muslims worldwide disapprove of al-Qaeda. Only 51% disapprove of the Taliban. 13% support both groups and 1 in 4 refuse to say.

See also: http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Muslim_Statistics_(Terrorism) for further statistics on Islamic terror.

Dude nobody in their right mind is gonna click all those links. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Brynnag]

france and aggression is an oxymoron.

[Mac Drettj]

prophet mohamMAD is a faggot

AMIRITE?

[Nirgon]

go get em retti

[Blasted]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAO8oc93UVQ

Simple example of how Muslim's cannot agree amongst themselves about the interpretation of their own religion. This chick is MAD.

But to think this is a strictly Muslim issue is shortsighted and ignorant.

I live in NYC - one of the most culturally diverse populaces on this planet. I'm a white American male of western European descent - who, by the logic of many people, should have no friends of Muslim background, because they all should hate me. It's simply not true. I have many Muslim friends. They are all wonderful and peaceful people. We've learned a lot from each other.

I hear many peaceful Muslim people across multiple outlets claiming that all Muslims should not be painted with the broad strokes of extremism, and that Muslims are an inherently peace-loving people. I would tend to agree with this, based on my own personal experience.

...but therein lies the problem, and the crux of the argument with many of the people on either side of this. My personal experience is in no way a representation of the world in it's entirety. Neither is yours.

While it's beautiful that some of us non-Muslims have welcomed in to our lives, and have been welcomed by Muslims, unfortunately, our experiences fly directly in the face of the literal foundations of the Muslim religion. Lying, stealing, and murder are all acceptable practices toward non-Muslims, under the literal representation of the Muslim holy book. In a nutshell, the Qur'an's attitude toward non-Muslims is to convert or die. If you're a peaceful moderate Muslim, or a sympathizer, hearing this may anger you, because knowing it angers me as well, but I implore you to continue reading.

You and I may have personal experience with Muslims who do not adhere to such deplorable values, the same way a large percentage of the world does. As well, a large percentage of the world has experience with Christians that are non-homophobic, because they recognize blind intolerance has no place in a modern world, despite what their Bible literally says.

The list goes on, of those who claim to adhere to a religion, but are so loose in it's translation and application as they deem it convenient to their modern lives - that they may need to reevaluate whether their religious affiliations are valid, or if it's simply tradition of their parents and their parents' parents, lest they remain too simple to understand that the literal orthodox teachings of all religions are outmoded, and obsolete for the modern, intelligent world we now live in.

The question, then, is why do the ones who claim the words in their holy books are no longer able to be accepted literally, still also claim to be a follower of the religion from which the books derive their twisted logic? This is hypocrisy rooted in fear, the same fear of an imaginary god that spawned religions as means of political control thousands of years ago. It's the single most dangerous ignorance we face as humans.

tl;dr: Too many people claiming to be followers of a religion simply because they go and pray to some false idol in a fancy building with other sheep once a week. When it comes to religion, you're either all in or all out, and if you call yourself a "moderate", you're NOT all in. Time to evolve.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Originally Posted by Blasted [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAO8oc93UVQ

Simple example of how Muslim's cannot agree amongst themselves about the interpretation of their own religion. This chick is MAD.

But to think this is a strictly Muslim issue is shortsighted and ignorant.

I live in NYC - one of the most culturally diverse populaces on this planet. I'm a white American male of western European descent - who, by the logic of many people, should have no friends of Muslim background, because they all should hate me. It's simply not true. I have many Muslim friends. They are all wonderful and peaceful people. We've learned a lot from each other.

I hear many peaceful Muslim people across multiple outlets claiming that all Muslims should not be painted with the broad strokes of extremism, and that Muslims are an inherently peace-loving people. I would tend to agree with this, based on my own personal experience.

Those people may be good people, but they are bad at being Muslims. In order to be a 'good Muslim' you need to be what we in the west consider to be a 'bad person'.

Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing...
but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)"


Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."

Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."

Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

There is no two ways about it. This isn't like arguing against Christianity who at least have the new testament to fall back on even though they love to cite the old to excuse their bigotry. The Quran IS their new testament.

Heck, it even has a verse or two specifically about your so called 'peaceful Muslims'

Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-"

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by KagatobLuvsAnimu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Those people may be good people, but they are bad at being Muslims. In order to be a 'good Muslim' you need to be what we in the west consider to be a 'bad person'.


There is no two ways about it. This isn't like arguing against Christianity who at least have the new testament to fall back on even though they love to cite the old to excuse their bigotry. The Quran IS their new testament.

Heck, it even has a verse or two specifically about your so called 'peaceful Muslims'

Kaga I think its about time you learned to read.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Originally Posted by Buriedpast [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have to reply to this below:
"1. The Middle East isn't being modernized. The only places that are getting better are Oman and Tunisia ... neither of those things have anything to do with the West. They have to do with Muslims, thankfully, finally having decent leadership and challenging the bull shit ultra-conservative orthodoxy. Sadly, those two countries make up like 15 million people total out of that 1.6 billion Muslims you mention. The problem is not that all Muslims are "radical," the problem is that large majorities of them think that the death penalty is acceptable for apostasy, that adultery is punishable by stoning, and that women are property. From that cultural baseline, a long line of "radicals," at least from the perspective of a liberal western society, spring forth."

Tunisia is not. It's falling apart. He'll we don't even send expats to Tunisia, right now is has the same level of "stay the fuck away from" as Bangladesh and Azerbaijan. Both not 'bad', but not exactly welcoming either.

And in 10 years Oman will be in civil war. The current sultan is a homosexual with no defined heir. He has declared two candidates to figure it out for themselves.

Right now I love Oman, Omani people, and everything about Oman. It's a thousand times more friendly and inviting to a white redneck big mouthed australian than anywhere I've been in the world (lots of places). But it will fall to shit sure as beiber is a dickhead.

Muslim wise ask any 28+ year old from Saudi/Qatar/emirates what they do on Wednesday nights.... Go to Bahrain to sink piss and fuck whores.

Every Muslim I have met in 5 GCC nations who has travelled outside the GCC has been to Thailand. Do I really need to make it clear why anyone goes to fucking Thailand? (Hint, sex with 12 year old boys, chicks with dicks, and refilling your tiger bottle with piss from her flaps from across the bar). Then they all go home to become good moderate folk.

But as a country, and a Muslim country, and a country with religious overshadows on every part of politics and law... Oman is more friendly, welcoming, warm and loyal than Texas could ever dream to be. Also you yanks need to appreciate how good Muslim BBQ is, man they've been marinating meat and grilling it on coals for 3000 years. They have that shit PERFECT [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]


This shit in France... Fuck me they allow free citizenship to ex colonized lands/countries. France has a huge problem with Muslims immigrants and 1-2nd generation French who fuckin hate the French way of life, the strong French nationalist pride, and the French liberalist way of open minded thinking.

Motec you coming back to play?