Forsaken

[neeferio]

Originally Posted by Tiggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Word on the street is forsaken is staying class R till velious for the morale boost given by picking on BDA

Doubt anyone in BDA cares. Mostly we are laughing that Forsaken can't handle the heat in class C. Giving all the VP loot to Rampage.

Enjoy your 1 class R mob a month.

Cheers

[Swish]

Originally Posted by neeferio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Doubt anyone in BDA cares. Mostly we are laughing that Forsaken can't handle the heat in class C....

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaha!

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[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Originally Posted by Zeelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Everyone here seems to be confused. TMO on Red is TMO from 2010-2013. The scrubs who called themselves TMO for the past 2 years are not us, they aren't even TMO. They just grabbed our name for publicity to improve their success rate, but they still failed hard because they were just that terrible.

This argument makes no sense to anyone who knows how guilds grow, get sick, explode, etc.

Ok, so around 2013 a core or even a majority of TMO decided to end the run. But some obviously stayed, or the name would not exist, nor would the guild have been able to continue (no guild bank, no roster, etc.)

You can't say "but that was not the real TMO"

That is just laughable. Some left, some stayed, those who stayed continued on their way and kept things moving more or less, but whatever internal issues contributed to the 2013 exodus has now led to phase two of the Troubles. Stop trying to turn this into some overly complicated just cause.

Predictable dominant guild breaks apart partially, some stay, new members jump on the ship, but predictable dominant guild still has issues, and falls apart. Some go to form new venture.

That's predictable guild stuff. Stop taking yourself so seriously. "The real TMO" -- lol.

I'm the real Sadre, though.

[Zeelot]

Originally Posted by Sadre Spinegnawer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This argument makes no sense to anyone who knows how guilds grow, get sick, explode, etc.

Ok, so around 2013 a core or even a majority of TMO decided to end the run. But some obviously stayed, or the name would not exist, nor would the guild have been able to continue (no guild bank, no roster, etc.)

You can't say "but that was not the real TMO"

That is just laughable. Some left, some stayed, those who stayed continued on their way and kept things moving more or less, but whatever internal issues contributed to the 2013 exodus has now led to phase two of the Troubles. Stop trying to turn this into some overly complicated just cause.

Predictable dominant guild breaks apart partially, some stay, new members jump on the ship, but predictable dominant guild still has issues, and falls apart. Some go to form new venture.

That's predictable guild stuff. Stop taking yourself so seriously. "The real TMO" -- lol.

I'm the real Sadre, though.

What you're saying might make sense if TMO was just a p99 guild, but we've been around 15 years.

The p99ers tried to use the guild name to get recruits but it didn't help enough. And FE people were leading the guild.... how does that make the guild have any sort of connection to my guild. It doesn't


Gadfly, never had an issue with you. If you don't think it made sense to leave then that's fine. But our guild has always been highly competitive and aggressive ever since starting on Fennin ro. The main reason we liked p99 blue was because that playstyle was similar, especially with the VP train wars. When the raid rotations came in, our classic eq nostalgia got crushed, so we left. End of story. Can call it a hissy fit if you want, but obviously was a logical decision based on a change in rules.

[Champion_Standing]

Originally Posted by Zeelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What you're saying might make sense if TMO was just a p99 guild, but we've been around 15 years.

The p99ers tried to use the guild name to get recruits but it didn't help enough. And FE people were leading the guild.... how does that make the guild have any sort of connection to my guild. It doesn't


Gadfly, never had an issue with you. If you don't think it made sense to leave then that's fine. But our guild has always been highly competitive and aggressive ever since starting on Fennin ro. The main reason we liked p99 blue was because that playstyle was similar, especially with the VP train wars. When the raid rotations came in, our classic eq nostalgia got crushed, so we left. End of story. Can call it a hissy fit if you want, but obviously was a logical decision based on a change in rules.

So you have been leading tmo for 15 years? Holy shit, you are a middle aged man who still takes everquest this seriously? Fuckin a man, I'm sorry.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Zeelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can call it a hissy fit if you want, but obviously was a logical decision based on a change in rules.

It was really somewhere between a temper tantrum and total meltdown.

[Socratic]

Originally Posted by Zeelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gadfly, never had an issue with you. If you don't think it made sense to leave then that's fine. But our guild has always been highly competitive and aggressive ever since starting on Fennin ro. The main reason we liked p99 blue was because that playstyle was similar, especially with the VP train wars. When the raid rotations came in, our classic eq nostalgia got crushed, so we left. End of story. Can call it a hissy fit if you want, but obviously was a logical decision based on a change in rules.

I'm all for quitting for a good reason, and this server has given everyone plenty of them. Hell, I quit twice! My only issue is that instead of realizing that most of the guild still wanted to play, and wishing them well, you locked up the guild bank and basically called them all traitors for not quitting with you.

We have all made emotional decisions, and put our own ego before common sense, but it's been a long time man, and you're still beating that same drum.

The guild you left behind did damn well for more than a year with basically no leadership after Zagum poofed. They pushed IB into a major reform, a new tag, and split leadership with a class R guild that has been around a long time (just like current TMO is basically doing now). They did well. You should be proud of them. Many of them (not as many now) are people you would have called friend before you left.

Honestly man I hope you guys have fun and do well on red. I just don't see why you feel the need to trash these people who have been fighting a pretty rough battle here on blue. I don't read your red threads but I doubt they do the same to you, and they certainly could.

Now there is no TMO or IB on blue, and honestly that's a good thing. Way too much petty baggage had been built up. Hopefully everyone can take a deep breath and move forward with cooler heads. It would be better for everyone involved.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Sadre Spinegnawer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This argument makes no sense to anyone who knows how guilds grow, get sick, explode, etc.

Ok, so around 2013 a core or even a majority of TMO decided to end the run. But some obviously stayed, or the name would not exist, nor would the guild have been able to continue (no guild bank, no roster, etc.)

You can't say "but that was not the real TMO"

That is just laughable. Some left, some stayed, those who stayed continued on their way and kept things moving more or less, but whatever internal issues contributed to the 2013 exodus has now led to phase two of the Troubles. Stop trying to turn this into some overly complicated just cause.

Predictable dominant guild breaks apart partially, some stay, new members jump on the ship, but predictable dominant guild still has issues, and falls apart. Some go to form new venture.

That's predictable guild stuff. Stop taking yourself so seriously. "The real TMO" -- lol.

I'm the real Sadre, though.

Your argument doesn't make sense. If I made a character on Red named Sadre.. would I be the real Sadre? Is an entity only described by its name? Or lets say when character trading was still allowed and you allowed someone else to play your character or ending up trading it for plat. Would that new player be the real Sadre?
Dumb

[Tann]

srsly this game was great

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs8UXvNX8W8

[Cecily]

I'd wish you guys would back off Clark, tbh. Please.