Shadows of Luclin server

[dallow2345]

I once saw an old guy yelling at a Marie Calendars because he wanted breakfast and they don't serve it. The waitress tried telling him they had some omelets on the lunch menu but he wanted breakfast and was angry he couldn't have what he wanted. So he finally got the idea he wasn't going to get breakfast and went to Denny's down the street. the end.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by dallow2345 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I once saw an old guy yelling at a Marie Calendars because he wanted breakfast and they don't serve it. The waitress tried telling him they had some omelets on the lunch menu but he wanted breakfast and was angry he couldn't have what he wanted. So he finally got the idea he wasn't going to get breakfast and went to Denny's down the street. the end.

Correction. Its more about getting the staff to consider ways and means at this point, than a matter of convincing or "getting it".

We're getting something, we're just not sure what right now.

That's a fact that IS confirmed by staff.

The point of this thread is for unbiased Luclin historians to discuss what Luclin can possibly do for the server, and a gentle reminder of exactly how many people voted Yes Luclin/PoP in 3 separate polls over the past 2 years.


If nilbog had the slave labor he could beat with a stick once a month and be available bi-weekly to assist and answer questions, I think that would alleviate what seems to be his chief concern about Luclin is. Which is, for him personally, he doesn't want to work on something that he personally did not enjoy.

If there was a way for him to develop Luclin without spending any of his own valuable time on it, it is my understanding that it would be done, simply for the sake of doing it, and to put that option on the shelf for a later day. Because no one on staff management has a personal beef with Luclin that they have made known to us yet, in fact, its been the opposite. Admin is neutral on it.

Again, based on staffs answers (nilbog), there is no hard no. Just a soft no based on the fact nilbog doesn't want to volunteer any time into something he does not enjoy and would not see himself personally enjoying (Completely justified, and he did an outstanding job on Velious. I would never suggest he should work for free on something he is not passionate about. I back him 100% on not spending a single hour on something he didn't enjoy).

[salimoneus]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Again, based on staffs answers (nilbog), there is no hard no.

Maybe you should go re-visit some of the past comments from the vocal minority:

Originally Posted by Haynar

If we do anything post-velious, it should be what SOE/VI should have done. Not what they did with Luclin. I am against the going to the moon concept.

Originally Posted by nilbog

This is a prekunark-velious server. Nothing has changed about our mission goal :P

Since this is a hypothetical discussion, I will join in.

There is no way I would go forward with Luclin and beyond. (cat people and aliens? really. It went from a fantasy setting to 1990s scifi.)

I don't know what you consider a "hard no", but those two statements sure seem to qualify to me.

Not trying to rain on anyone's parade here, just trying to save y'all some time from barking up the wrong tree. This whole Luclin thing is just an exercise in futility. But by all means feel free to continue polling and pleading if that's how you choose to spend your time, whatever floats your *boat* (no nexus or mount substitutions allowed there [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] )

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by salimoneus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe you should go re-visit some of the past comments from the vocal minority:






I don't know what you consider a "hard no", but those two statements sure seem to qualify to me.

No link, no date. It would mean the stance has changed, so I am not buying it until I see some verification with timestamp/date.

[Rararboker]

Azzar haven't you been around long enough to have read the threads those quotes came from? I can still remember when those post by haynar and nilbog went up.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Rararboker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Azzar haven't you been around long enough to have read the threads those quotes came from? I can still remember when those post by haynar and nilbog went up.

Exactly why I dismissed it. The posts were made in 2011-2013.

Simply not relevant to the discussion in 2016.

When HB and others have mentioned Luclin hasn't received a hard no, they are correct.

The latest nilbog is exactly what I said, I didn't type it into a fake /quote because I am not going to pretend I recall exactly how he said it. However, I stand behind the summary of nilbog's statements in a very late 2015 post-Velious launch Q+A session one hundred percent. I'd stake my entire P99 holdings on it.

What I said is accurate in 2015-2016. What you guys are saying and posting was "accurate" in 2012-2013.

[Psionide]

Its not even possible they ripped out all the code and they sure as hell ain't going to go through all that for something they don't like or care about. Those quotes by the devs are legit too and more evidence then you have produced, I'd really be interested to see any sort of evidence where the devs have changed their mind. I don't see why you would think they would suddenly change their minds from 2013 to now when they didn't change their minds over the course of the last 15 years.

[Axlrose]

I could be wrong and misinterpreted the posting, but I thought Rogean and company received the blessing from Daybreak / Sony for this server to exist since it was _only_ going up to Velious?

[wormed]

Originally Posted by Axlrose [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I could be wrong and misinterpreted the posting, but I thought Rogean and company received the blessing from Daybreak / Sony for this server to exist since it was _only_ going up to Velious?

Nobody has any idea what that agreement entailed. Only thing I remember nilbog saying is there'll be custom content beyond Velious... MAYBE using Luclin zones, etc. The use of AA's may occur but not in the traditional sense. For example, Slay Undead became an integral aspect of Paladin might post Velious. He said he may incorporate something like that through a quest line to enable Slay Undead.

[WolfsongReborn]

Only thing i'd like to see were AA's.