Forsaken is a bait and switch guild, warning to all players

[Maner]

Originally Posted by azxten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hold tight to that loot angle, cuddle it.

Its the entire reason you are bitching, just go read your post. you're a loot whore who was upset he wasn't allowed to bid on anything after a 2 month ghost. You don't care that someone you don't know got harassed by another member, you're just using that to deflect from your real issue. That you weren't allowed to spend your 300dkp with 0%raid attendance

[Danth]

Per this thread, apparently some folks think a person who shows up to almost a hundred guild events warrants nothing for his efforts. ~90 guild events in ~6 months is roughly one every other day. That's a lot.

When the Forsaken recruiters come calling to me, I politely tell them "no thanks" and go about my business. I've been in online gaming long enough to know the extreme expectations high-end guilds tend to place on their members, and know it's not for me. Perhaps the original poster is less familiar with online gaming? I don't know his history, but I hope he's wise enough to treat this as a learning experience.

I have a longstanding personal rule of never joining a guild which uses any form of currency-based loot, and immediately leave any guild which transitions to such. That rule has for years done a fine job of ensuring my hobby remains fun and free, rather than turning gaming into a really lousy second job with schedules, on-call requirements, and no pay.

Danth

[Prismaticshop]

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[Prismaticshop]

Originally Posted by Jarnauga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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i like the "scoring awesome loots" part

well, vulaak loot is awesome, before disbanding Rampage hadn't killed him in a while.

So, I'd say this quote is accurate.

[Danth]

Originally Posted by Secrets [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Any guild that mass recruits without due process is going to be shit. I guarantee it.

That just means they have fewer recruits than their competition, which makes sense since Forsaken was typically in the number 2 spot. Otherwise pretty well any higher-end guild in a setting with contested content is going to be basically similar to the next. They'll all, of necessity, demand excessive commitment at nutso hours out of their membership. They have to operate like that because if they don't they'll lose to the folks who do. If you want to see top pixels while maintaining a casual schedule, you had better pick a game with instancing or no competition (like P99 Red).

I'll settle for skipping the high-end pixels but otherwise playing this game how I choose to, when I choose to. I consider it a good trade in my favor. Those top pixels do nothing for you if you wake up one day and realize you hate the game.

Danth

[azxten]

They left out "scoring awesome loots for old TMO members we make officers the moment they come back."

[Merekai]

Originally Posted by lonmoer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It seems like a lot of guilds do this. I joined Azure Guard and earned a lot of DKP and was saving it up for some good items. In their bid system you can only make a max DKP bid of 200 or so and by golly gosh darn it every time i max bid the the loot council awarded the items to officers. How convenient.

If you bid the max amount and someone else also bid the max amount the item is awarded to the person with the higher amount of DKP available to spend - there was no officer back channel bullshit going on and GTFO for claiming we do crap like that, if you knew what officers did and the time spent in order to better the whole guild you'd understand why I take offense to such an accusation.

Chevey

[Prismaticshop]

Originally Posted by azxten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They left out "scoring awesome loots for old TMO members we make officers the moment they come back."

Well tbh I'm pretty sure no one in rampage with 11% raid attendance got vulaak loot bud.

Maybe in other games like wildstar or Guild wars 2 you can hope for pixels whilst being a casua scum, but this is P99, maybe you didn't realize but it's quite hardcore.

[azxten]

Meh I'll jump in here too. Azure Guard hoarded loot similarly to Forsaken.

I was also a member of Azure Guard (I've been in basically every big guild on this server on various characters and am still in several of them). I left for the same reasons that lonmoer just outlined. Guild loot policy being carefully crafted to control where loot actually ends up.

When I left AG they had a policy where officers made their own decision on if an item was appropriate for a class, blah blah blah. It was a total mess of favouritism.

I will give AG credit though because they listened to my opinions, took my feedback seriously and implemented changes, and this was also a couple years ago so who knows what has changed. They didn't kick me for saying I was upset with policy and wanting to talk about it.

[azxten]

Originally Posted by Prismaticshop [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well tbh I'm pretty sure no one in rampage with 11% raid attendance got vulaak loot bud.

Maybe in other games like wildstar or Guild wars 2 you can hope for pixels whilst being a casua scum, but this is P99, maybe you didn't realize but it's quite hardcore.

Keep claiming that 90 out of 900 raids is a joke for attendance and deserving of zero loot. That is my lifetime attendance, my highest 30 day was 40% and your only going on and on about low attendance because I stopped playing due to the obvious scam Forsaken was pulling on its members.

Its not like other members don't agree, they are just too scared to say anything. I know they agree because I can name at least a dozen people who told me they agree only in the last 24 hours.