How do I report a named kill steal?

[Tethler]

Originally Posted by Toothed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just like to post an update. Zercury of Paradigm Shift just actually did steal my kill and proceeded to take the rare drop. (no fishing pole). This server is like the wild west now. So much for your blue server nobility what a laugh

So, someone did to you exactly what you did to someone else (they just got lucky with the rare drop whereas you ruined your reputation and didnt even get the loot) and you're complaining about it? Cool. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Toothed]

Update their guild made it right and I now have my own fish bone earring. True justice now I never have to look at this smelly spawn again thanks everyone.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by aaezil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So wait theres people that really think that because they killed a mob 6 hours ago and logged off that when they log back in the mob is still theirs?

And theres really people out there that think sitting afk on a spawn point having not killed any ph or surrounding mobs gives them rights to the mob?

I mean i know the rules here are terrible but this is basic information

+1

Mob was technically uncamped and under FTE status. Camps are held by cycling PHers AND maintaining presence at the camp, neither party satisfied both requirements.

[bricke75]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

+1

Mob was technically uncamped and under FTE status.

How was it technically uncamped? Because there's no place holder? Sitting there actively for almost 6 hours means nothing then. Interesting.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by bricke75 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How was it technically uncamped? Because there's no place holder? Sitting there actively for almost 6 hours means nothing then. Interesting.

Did you kill the previous Hadden and he drop a fishing pole? Did you kill axe broad smith? That's two ways you can claim the camp. Just being in the area without killing anything doesn't mean you have the camp.

[TheSurgeon]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

+1

Mob was technically uncamped and under FTE status. Camps are held by cycling PHers AND maintaining presence at the camp, neither party satisfied both requirements.

No.

We are going to shut this hillbilly thinking the fuck down right here and now. You, and those like you, have such a gross misunderstanding of the letter of the law, and language in general, that it is almost worthy of a scholarly study. I see I need to lay it out brick by fucking brick to end this shinning example of avarice.

In general means that there are exceptions to the rule, and any good faith argument would firmly position Hadden as both a camp and one that does not follow normal doctrine. There is no PH, Place Holder, for a static mob on a set respawn. Hadden with a fishing pole is not the place holder for Hadden with a fishbone earring, just like the Frenzied Ghoul without an FBSS isn't the PH for a Frenzied Ghoul with one. That line of thinking is insane, disingenuous, and can only be brought into existence by a greedy goblin.

Hadden is a camp. A camp that can be claimed by means of presence. No you don't have to kill a random green NPC for it to be considered a camp. We all know good and god damn well that is referring, in general, to traditional camps. Hadden is not traditional, but again, the mob is most certainly a camp.

The camp was claimed and stolen, using nefarious hand waving shit logic from loathsome real world paupers who want to twist words like cheap con men to gain the goods. To an honest person, a sensible person, a mother fucking sane person, or just an intelligent person who isn't a fucking loser hinging their life's worth on pixels, FTE was established for areas with roaming mobs with multiple groups to maintain a line of decency, and to keep raiding guild shenanigans in check. It is not the end all be all faggot fuckwit trump card to snag a named mob. It most fucking certainly doesn't apply to camps where a physical presence is maintained (in traditional camps that presence being the active engagement of mobs, and the quirky non-traditional camps the mere virtue of being there in game prepared to engage within a reasonable amount of time). A reasonable amount of time isn't up at 3 seconds, 20 seconds even 90 seconds. I'll concede that much further past 120 seconds and the waters become murky and you can only keep a six fingered, one eyed, inbred from treasure for so long.

What this server lacks is an appreciable amount of decency. You shouldn't wait, bait, pray, and attempt to snag a mob by ignoring all tells and hoping the person LDs, falls asleep, or had a soggy sock get too full. There shouldn't be mind games required to keep a spawn from people tracking your every move to take it away from you the moment you don't engage a mob within seconds. But that's where we are at. However, the foot comes crashing down, and the dick gets pulled out and pummeled against the forehead of any asinine mother fucker who wants to try and use convenient illiteracy to sway a mind and con a mob from another user.

To say Hadden can't be claimed without killing an unrelated NPC, and that an individual can't claim the camp without having killed Hadden the previous time, makes the one who pronounced the idea a fucking illiterate idiot, or a dishonest skallywag. Both can and should be ignored.

The OP could have been an asshole and said some mean things, but Drest is most certainly a backpedaling, crack smoking, kill stealing fuck.

No misinterpretation of language is going to earn you or anyone like you a win in elf court today chump.

[aaezil]

Originally Posted by TheSurgeon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No.

We are going to shut this hillbilly thinking the fuck down right here and now. You, and those like you, have such a gross misunderstanding of the letter of the law, and language in general, that it is almost worthy of a scholarly study. I see I need to lay it out brick by fucking brick to end this shinning example of avarice.

In general means that there are exceptions to the rule, and any good faith argument would firmly position Hadden as both a camp and one that does not follow normal doctrine. There is no PH, Place Holder, for a static mob on a set respawn. Hadden with a fishing pole is not the place holder for Hadden with a fishbone earring, just like the Frenzied Ghoul without an FBSS isn't the PH for a Frenzied Ghoul with one. That line of thinking is insane, disingenuous, and can only be brought into existence by a greedy goblin.

Hadden is a camp. A camp that can be claimed by means of presence. No you don't have to kill a random green NPC for it to be considered a camp. We all know good and god damn well that is referring, in general, to traditional camps. Hadden is not traditional, but again, the mob is most certainly a camp.

The camp was claimed and stolen, using nefarious hand waving shit logic from loathsome real world paupers who want to twist words like cheap con men to gain the goods. To an honest person, a sensible person, a mother fucking sane person, or just an intelligent person who isn't a fucking loser hinging their life's worth on pixels, FTE was established for areas with roaming mobs with multiple groups to maintain a line of decency, and to keep raiding guild shenanigans in check. It is not the end all be all faggot fuckwit trump card to snag a named mob. It most fucking certainly doesn't apply to camps where a physical presence is maintained (in traditional camps that presence being the active engagement of mobs, and the quirky non-traditional camps the mere virtue of being there in game prepared to engage within a reasonable amount of time). A reasonable amount of time isn't up at 3 seconds, 20 seconds even 90 seconds. I'll concede that much further past 120 seconds and the waters become murky and you can only keep a six fingered, one eyed, inbred from treasure for so long.

What this server lacks is an appreciable amount of decency. You shouldn't wait, bait, pray, and attempt to snag a mob by ignoring all tells and hoping the person LDs, falls asleep, or had a soggy sock get too full. There shouldn't be mind games required to keep a spawn from people tracking your every move to take it away from you the moment you don't engage a mob within seconds. But that's where we are at. However, the foot comes crashing down, and the dick gets pulled out and pummeled against the forehead of any asinine mother fucker who wants to try and use convenient illiteracy to sway a mind and con a mob from another user.

To say Hadden can't be claimed without killing an unrelated NPC, and that an individual can't claim the camp without having killed Hadden the previous time, makes the one who pronounced the idea a fucking illiterate idiot, or a dishonest skallywag. Both can and should be ignored.

The OP could have been an asshole and said some mean things, but Drest is most certainly a backpedaling, crack smoking, kill stealing fuck.

No misinterpretation of language is going to earn you or anyone like you a win in elf court today chump.

I think you are the one misunderstanding here. Lucan has no “PH” he is just lucan but the ruling for him is you dont own the camp unless you kill the surrounding npcs (not placeholders - have nothing to do with the spawn itself) in order to claim the camp. Just sitting in the room does not give you claim to the camp. Hadden is the same way.. the mobs next to him are not PHs but if you want to claim him you have to be killing them (or you have to be the one that killed him last spawn and havent logged out)

[Iksar_with_a_plan]

Originally Posted by TheSurgeon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No.

We are going to shut this hillbilly thinking the fuck down right here and now. You, and those like you, have such a gross misunderstanding of the letter of the law, and language in general, that it is almost worthy of a scholarly study. I see I need to lay it out brick by fucking brick to end this shinning example of avarice.

In general means that there are exceptions to the rule, and any good faith argument would firmly position Hadden as both a camp and one that does not follow normal doctrine. There is no PH, Place Holder, for a static mob on a set respawn. Hadden with a fishing pole is not the place holder for Hadden with a fishbone earring, just like the Frenzied Ghoul without an FBSS isn't the PH for a Frenzied Ghoul with one. That line of thinking is insane, disingenuous, and can only be brought into existence by a greedy goblin.

Hadden is a camp. A camp that can be claimed by means of presence. No you don't have to kill a random green NPC for it to be considered a camp. We all know good and god damn well that is referring, in general, to traditional camps. Hadden is not traditional, but again, the mob is most certainly a camp.

The camp was claimed and stolen, using nefarious hand waving shit logic from loathsome real world paupers who want to twist words like cheap con men to gain the goods. To an honest person, a sensible person, a mother fucking sane person, or just an intelligent person who isn't a fucking loser hinging their life's worth on pixels, FTE was established for areas with roaming mobs with multiple groups to maintain a line of decency, and to keep raiding guild shenanigans in check. It is not the end all be all faggot fuckwit trump card to snag a named mob. It most fucking certainly doesn't apply to camps where a physical presence is maintained (in traditional camps that presence being the active engagement of mobs, and the quirky non-traditional camps the mere virtue of being there in game prepared to engage within a reasonable amount of time). A reasonable amount of time isn't up at 3 seconds, 20 seconds even 90 seconds. I'll concede that much further past 120 seconds and the waters become murky and you can only keep a six fingered, one eyed, inbred from treasure for so long.

What this server lacks is an appreciable amount of decency. You shouldn't wait, bait, pray, and attempt to snag a mob by ignoring all tells and hoping the person LDs, falls asleep, or had a soggy sock get too full. There shouldn't be mind games required to keep a spawn from people tracking your every move to take it away from you the moment you don't engage a mob within seconds. But that's where we are at. However, the foot comes crashing down, and the dick gets pulled out and pummeled against the forehead of any asinine mother fucker who wants to try and use convenient illiteracy to sway a mind and con a mob from another user.

To say Hadden can't be claimed without killing an unrelated NPC, and that an individual can't claim the camp without having killed Hadden the previous time, makes the one who pronounced the idea a fucking illiterate idiot, or a dishonest skallywag. Both can and should be ignored.

The OP could have been an asshole and said some mean things, but Drest is most certainly a backpedaling, crack smoking, kill stealing fuck.

No misinterpretation of language is going to earn you or anyone like you a win in elf court today chump.

I agree, possibly with fewer harsh sentiments to the core of this post. However I can completely understand how it was warranted. Its been pretty annoying reading some of the retorts in this thread that have been purely masturbatory and pompous.

[Toothed]

Throw a little bitch fit on the forum and proceeded to steal via a guildie real nice bro

[bricke75]

Originally Posted by Toothed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Throw a little bitch fit on the forum and proceeded to steal via a guildie real nice bro

Except, ya know, I'm guildless (always have been). Makes it hard for my guildies that I don't have to steal a kill from you, right?

Another nice lie.